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W stream like always
I vote to trade lebanc
Wanted to give Grier a chance, but starting to think the Grier hire was a mistake.
Lol. Looks like a management crapshot…..not an nhl caliber coach, not a fan…..big disappointment for the sharks…starting to look a little bit like Buffalo….must take the bull by the horns and start a rebuild seriously like the Blackhawks…eventhough Chicago made some questionable moves at least management is making the right decisions for the future.
God this feels like Al Sims deja vu. At least with Sims it was short lived. I feel that this is going to be dragged out over the full 3 years or longer….
Not an NHL caliber coach just like the G.M.
Summer of Meh continues yes
Might be extended into the season it feels like.
Give the guy a chance before we condemn him! Hell they stuck with the Boogar for 3 seasons!
Can we get first dibs on Jumbo? I think he is going to be a great HC!
Your 22-23 San Jose Sharks. “It doesn’t get more Meh”
I'm not crazy about quinn,but he can't be worse than boughner,
In connection with Boston,i hope Thornton,Shawn Thornton or Zdeno Chara got job,at least until Milan Lucic ends his career.
I agree with the general pessimism regarding next year's team and line-up and the early moves by rookie GM Mike Grier. Grier has not really laid out his ideal for the new team identity and really needs to get lucky in some of his next moves. Grier inherited an awful salary cap situation and at least 3 poor contracts (Labanc, Vlasic, Karlsson), and his first big trade was to dump Brent Burns without getting full salary relief and proper return for his talent. Burns was the best player over the whole last season on the Sharks, and held the team together many games so he was worth every penny of his Texas sized salary.
I am worried that David Quinn will start slow and make the team identity struggle in this transitional period even more difficult due to imposing his "system" on the players to establish his coaching authority. I prefer an anarchist coach who lets the players find their identity on the ice as opposed to a tyrant who benches the dissobedient like John Torterella. Does Grier prefer a more gritty player than Quinn would want? Who knows how they will handle injuries and a continuing covid-19 pandemic next season (more players on roster?). Though I would prefer that Sharks adopt a Detroit Red Wings style process of longer development in the lower leagues such as AHL or CHL so that prospects are not overwhelmed in their rookie NHL seasons but able to dominate from the beginning, if many players are injured or sick then they will have to promote prospects from the Barracuda team and interfere with their longer development.
Sharks appear to be a cursed team in many ways as their luck is consistently rotten and they never get a break or win the draft lottery. Mike Grier needs to exorcise the demons that have kept the Sharks from reaching the playoffs and from developing a homegrown team chemistry. While it is still too early to judge Mike Grier, there are two groups to compare him to as the season unfolds: other rookie GMs in the same starting position as Grier such as Pat Verbeek (Anaheim), Kyle Davidson (Chicago), Chris MacFarland (Colorado), Kent Hughes (Montreal), Chris Drury (NY Rangers), Patrik Allvin (Vancouver) and Ron Hextall (Pittsburg). MacFarland has inherited a far better Avalanche championship team to begin his GM career, so he would not be a fair comparison. Grier wants to be a "competitive" GM so that should mean that he is able to outperform other rookie GMs in a similar re-building position and improve his team to beat his rival GM teams (faster development of a consistent winner).
The other group to compare with Grier are the top GMs in the NHL due to their skill in the trade market, drafting prospects, and winning records or consistent Stanley Cup contenders or superior performing or faster improving teams: Steve Yzerman (Detroit), Ron Francis (Seattle), Julien Brisebois (Tampa Bay), and David Poile (Nashville) could be in this elite GM category, even if they have not won much yet as they build their next team identities. Mike Grier will probably not be competitive with this elite group for many seasons, unless he stays on top of his Sharks development program and gets extremely lucky in his moves. There may be some more suspense next season, but I expect more bold trades and experiments by Grier as he struggles to find the new Sharks team identity with a modified cohort of core players and a much expanded pool of prospects in the minors, including more undrafted players. Most of us should refrain from judging Grier positively or harshly until the end of his rookie season as GM, which means about May 2023. We must watch pessimistically until Grier proves to be a miracle worker and gives us more faith in this team, but expect rookie mistakes from Grier also. Are such playoff deprived fans in a forgiving or patient mood? I think not!
Less whining and more substance please. A couple of these hosts appear to have already judged Grier by his first month. If they had the reigns the franchise would surely be headed in a better direction :).
Lots of beating a dead horse on Boston ties and Quinn being bad for young players. Do you really have the experience to confidently say Quinn is bad for young players? Quinn had a 105-69-21 record as a college coach, coaching young players.
What did we expect the situation to be at this point? How qualified and informed are we (and these hosts) to judge Quinn? Would prefer more substance to back up the whining. Give more examples of why you don’t like him. He only has 3 years to go off of in the NHL and was a little over .500 with an up and coming Rangers team.
Appreciate you talking Sharks and hockey, and if you feel bad about the current decisions and want to express that, that’s fine. But I’d prefer to see more hard data to backup your claims.
As NYR fan Quinn is not a bad coach 96-87-25 over three seasons. As you point out Dolan got an itch and cleaned house. He was also handcuffed to Lindy Ruff who was not let go When he was brought in. So his message may have been lost in the room keeping the old head coach while hiring a new one is not a clear message. The Wilson incident was not his fault but why Dolan fired him and the rest of the management team
I don't get the criticism of Quinn. He brought Fox, Kakko, Lafreniere, Chytil, Miller and Shesterkin into the first team. He probably didn't play them as much as the fans wanted, but fans always want the youth prospects given a lot of time on the ice and that's just not a good idea for rookies. At the end of the day, you just have to ask yourselves whether those players fit into the team now and if they do, who helped them make that step up – because a hell of a lot of great youth prospects never make the step – and the answer is Quinn
1:04 Dan Quinn?
I personally like the hiring, with the direction Grier has carved for the shark's, I think the reputation of David Quinn will be thrown away, and I think he will have a completely new strategy
Grier is simply laying a framework for a New Sharks culture. Why don't we sit back and see where it goes before making flash judgements, some of which are unfounded (Quinn doesn't play the young guys…-Yes he does)
I really like what Grier is doing and I think the on-ice product is going to be really fun to watch. The bottom six is going to be a suffocating defensive checking unit that is really going to wear down opposing teams top offensive units creating time and space for Hertl and Co to do damage.
Good Job AJ, Puckguy and Ian for the David Quinn Podcast. I hope this season David Quinn can help us win the cup this year so he can erase and forget about his missed playoffs twice and loss second round memory. Also I wanna say thanks to Jerry F, berge7f91 and Laniccal for the generous donations. We Love you TTUSA and Go sharks.