Lors du match de la nuit dernière entre les Flyers de Philadelphie et les Maple Leafs de Toronto, vous avez peut-être remarqué que le filet de Matt Murray s’est délogé plus d’une fois en sortant de ses amarres. Eh bien aujourd’hui, une vidéo a fait surface montrant Murray semblant desserrer et remuer le filet pendant ce que le journaliste Michael Russo a qualifié d’arrêt de la télévision. Russo a également affirmé que la LNH surveillait ces clips de Murray aux côtés d’autres offres de but et examinerait la question des filets qui se détachent de plus en plus avec les directeurs généraux en mars. Je couvre cela dans la vidéo de hockey de la LNH d’aujourd’hui ! #mattmurray #nhl #torontomapleleafs #philadelphiaflyers
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MISTAKE 1:13 I got the 1st and the second mixed up. To clarify, I believe the SECOND was the suspect one and the FIRST being 50/50
When intentional, the first Delay of Game penalty for Dislodging Net should be a 2:00 minor. The 2nd intentional Dislodge, the offending goalie should go to the box, the backup comes in without warmup, and the first goalie cannot get out until the first stoppage after 2:00. More than 2 in a game, 1 game suspension and a fine.
start giving delay of game penatlies
I have always wondered why they can’t put one in the back post
Posts need to be sturdy enough to push off but loose enough not to decapitate someone crashing into it…. maybe some adjustments need to be made.
As a goalie that’s 230lbs the nets pop off constantly. It’s a side effect of larger goalies and RVH and newer butterfly type playing. There’s a ton of course put on the post when a goalie leaves the RVH position which is what happened almost every time Murray broke the net loose. The solution I believe is a different style net peg. One that can break away if a player hits the net from the front. But doesn’t give when pushed outwards.
Although it's good for player safety the RVH requires a good amount of force sometimes to beat skaters to the post
Appreciate you noticing this…hope they fix it
Definitely needs to be addressed. Its a cheap move. Clearly intentional. The opposing team should be allowed to call for an intentional delay of game and the refs should look at that overhead cam. So obvious. And a penalty shot should be awarded.
According to Wikipedia Marsh pegs have been the standard in the NHL since 1991 so, not really new… That being said, I've never seen anyone able to jiggle the net like that, but you have to wonder why he's doing it… It's not like he's calling or waving to a referee to show them how loose it is. He's seemingly doing whatever it is, on his own.
Seems fishy to me. If there's a problem let the ref know…
Many years ago, while attending a Kings game at the forum, at a time when the attn was elsewhere, I saw a goalie simply take the net off the post, then bang his stick on the ice to alert a linesman that the net was off, just to gain some time. I don't remember whether this was Vachon or the visiting goalie. BTW, the only two jerseys that are purple and gold that are retired are Marcel Dionne and Rogie, and I was there for both retirements. BTW, I got a chance to ask LArry Murphy who the other defenseman was on the Triple Crown line, and he told me it was Mark Hardy. Hardy was the only non-HOFer, but he had a terrific career in his own right.
it really does look like he does it on purpose more than once o-o
Make a third mounting point in back
From my perspective, this is incredibly frustrating to watch as a goaltender. I do not think that in any of these clips Murray purposely kicked the net off to stop play. I’m not saying that goalies never use this tactic, but it is extremely rare to see and when it does happen its very obvious. During a powerplay, goalies are focused on making the save, not pushing off the net. Goalies brains are so saturated already with what is happening in front of them, its almost impossible that they would have enough extra time to push the post off on purpose. In every clip in this video, Murray was in the process of making a save or moving to make a save, never when he’s just standing there and knocks the net off. Goalies simply want to make the save, they don’t want to push the net off and stop play.
I play high level junior hockey and it’s disappointing to see when fans and players get angry at goalies for the net coming loose. Like Murray, I am about 6 foot 5 and just a hair under 200 lbs. During a game, especially on a powerplay where the puck is moving around the zone a lot, goalies need to push off and lean on their posts. Fundamentally, it’s very hard for a goalie to move in his crease at the same pace the puck is moving around, because we need to stay square to the puck at all times. This is why goalies rely on their posts so much in order to keep up with or ahead of the play. Bigger goalies, like myself and Murray, put a lot more pressure on the posts due to our size. Goalies are in some form of contact with their posts for almost 90% of the total game time. It provides us with a frame of reference, and lets us know exactly where we are in relation to the net. We do not look down at our crease, ever.
Goalies never try to push the net off, and when the net does come off, it’s usually because the pegs are not strong enough, or were not installed correctly. If the NHL begins “monitoring” goalies for pushing the net off, I expect that they will find very inconsistent results on when the net comes off and when it doesn’t. To put the blame on the goaltenders I find it very frustrating in my opinion.
so, most engineers would know by wiggling a loose joint you make it more loose….on the contrary, I believe he was doing it on perpose for whatever reason he had to delay the game.
I used to prop for the Leafs. But after watching this, I'm thinking Murray is a total schmuck. Because either Bettman has to pander to him, or else the blue paint zone goes back to being the Stan Makita Zone.
My pet theory: Murray and Marchand share the same mother.
I'm not sure about Murray doing it intentionally, as in the majority of these clips he is either pushing off hard to get across for a save/rebound, or he comes into the post hard to seal it quickly for the same reason. There is a reasonable explanation as to why he is making contact with the net. It is entirely possible he is ALSO doing it intentionally. The problem for me is that this is extremely anecdotal evidence to be throwing around the accusation that he is outright cheating. The most worrying clip is him shaking it around between play, again though, I don't have the context for what was happening there. He could have been shouting at an off screen ref "hey this net is way too loose" for all I know. If he is actually cheating, I suspect it's something like he does stuff like in that clip to loosen the net so it is more likely to come off.
Also have they changed the net moorings in the recent years? I remember like 20 years ago players would go pretty hard into the net and it didn't seem to have much give. Some of these clips seem like a stiff breeze could have moved it.
Watching Murray grope his goalposts is almost as cringeworthy as Trump dry-humping the flag.
Murray's played so little in the last 5 yrs he hasn't gotten familiar with the new post rubbers.
Why would he dislodge the net when his team is on a break out?
For a lot of these that have happened over the season especially with Murray. The goalies aren’t pushing insanely hard off the posts, and since using the posts as a push off is very common the nhl needs to find a better way to keep the net on
Cheat for a pro
if it doesnt happen to other big goalies then he cheatin
I'd be curious if different arena's use different moorings. Could be worn out or weak, probably not something anyone in the league monitors.
It looks like Matt Murray is too big to play in the NHL. I mean, what an oaf! To me, he is clearly bumping those posts in an attempt to dislodge the net. They need to start calling is delay of game and penalizing Matty Murray.
I dont think hes doing it on purpose at all, dude is massive and the new moorings are prob shit
As a Leafs fan, if that what it takes to bring back Lord Stanley then so be it… been waiting since 67…
The moorings are too old
the leagues fault 100%. even if a goalie WANTED to do this.. it should be impossible. this is 2023.. you think the league hasnt thought of or even tried to solve this problem?
Somehow this happens all the time for Murray but rarely with most other goalies. It's definitely intentional, if not every time, often enough.
Rather have stoppages due to the net coming off, as before the nets were held in with 4" pieces of steel, and many players were injured, some career ending when hitting the posts.
If it is obvious that the goalie is doing it then issue a 2 minute penalty for delay of game
First, I'm a Leafs fan…. with that being said, its obvious that Murray is doing it on purpose. Good for him for getting away with it….. Now…. If you want to stop it cold, penalize the goalie…. and make him serve the two minutes himself. Two minutes with an empty net will tell every defenseman in the league to have a word or two with their goalies. It might happen once. It won't happen twice.
seems like magnets would be any easy solution but meh .
Just so everybody's clear about this. I am a Penguins fan who gets down to PPG Paints Arena as much as possible. I'm also still a big Matt Murray fan. Murray has been doing this ever since his days with the Pens….he refined his net-disloging skills in Pittsburgh.
There's really no fix for this. Using replay to try to discern a goalie's intent is an exercise in futility, since so much of every goalie's style includes being able to push off the post to get across the crease. This has been problematic ever since the NHL replaced the pipes that held the net in place with the magnetic system it has now. But the reality is that they can't go back to the fixed pipes, because there were just too many injuries, mainly players breaking, if not shattering, their legs from sliding into goalposts that had no "give" to them.
I remember Dale Tallon, when he was with Pittsburgh suffering multiple compound fractures in his leg when he slid into a goal post. Likewise, I remember Penguins defenseman Mario Flaubert (at the time, one of the Pens better prospects) shattering his leg on a goal post and never really recovering from the injury, although he played for a few more seasons.
Lmao I thought for a solid minute this was Eck this is like a wish version of his content