Qu’est-ce qui n’allait pas avec Hunter Shinkaruk? Il a été repêché au 1er tour du repêchage de 2013 avec Horvat !
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Qu’est-ce qui n’allait pas avec Hunter Shinkaruk? Il a été repêché au 1er tour du repêchage de 2013 avec Horvat !
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Not every guy works out!
I think the real question is what happened to Patrick White
What happened? He compared himself to Patrick Kane that’s what
Most draft picks don’t work out. Even most first-rounders are misses.
He was kind of a swing-for-the-fences type pick that that management group liked. If it worked out, he’d Bea superstar, but there was like a 5% chance of that actually happening.
Seemed like a steal at the time
I went to highschool with someone who played on the Medicine hat Tigers with Shinkaruk, he told me everyone on the team hated him because he was a cocky shit.
And apparently his dad paid for him to go to the best skills coaches around since the time he was 14 so he was able to dominate juniors but didn’t really have the hockey IQ to go very far.
Sometimes, I wonder if the team’s development program is to blame for some of the picks that don’t work out. Or maybe it is the scouting?
He wasn’t big enough or fast enough… if you’re gonna be small, you gotta be faster.
He was good at scoring goals, but thats about it. his point totals in the AHL were good, but he always had more goals than assists. So when got called up and asked to play 3rd line minutes, he didnt produce and wasnt good enough in his own end
So many players, you can ask the same question
On paper potential as a kid that didn’t have NHL success. Proving my point that even in deep drafts, every pick is a roll of the dice and tanking doesn’t get you « Next One ». Even 1st rounders are a crap shoot because superstars at 17/18 aren’t necessarily future superstars at 25.
He was SO good in ‘Chel back in the day.
Nothing unusual.
He was the #6 rated NA skater by Central Scouting. He fell to 24 because of concerns with his size, skating and attitude. He was rated #6 because of his mitts. He fell because of concerns with his size, skating and attitude.
He failed as a prospect for exactly those reasons: his size, skating and attitude.
It was baked into the evaluation. It was a calculated risk. Andrew Cristall is the same type of player this year (although obviously they’re different people). That type of player has only one path. They have to play on your top two lines and drive offense, or they’re useless. If they do that after being chosen in the back half of the first round, you look great…and if you don’t, it was a calculated risk.
Personally, I don’t begrudge the staff taking that risk in a year where we had two picks in the first round…and you expect a player like that to flame out ~50% of the time.
Fun fact I named my cat after this guy got drafted (got my cat like 1 week later)
There’s nothing unusual or unexpected about a 24th overall pick not becoming an NHLer.
Late 1st round picks (16-31) have averaged approximately [65% success at the NHL level](https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/) where « success » is measured as playing >99 games.
Of that group, only about [30% of players become meaningful contributors](https://stg.tsn.9c9media.ca/statistically-speaking-nhl-draft-pick-value-1.786131) (top 6F, top 4D, starting G) and 60% are 4th liners or worse.
To put it another way, some 24th overall picks become impact players. Most of them become fringe NHLers, or do not make it at all.
(side note: as early as 6th overall, draft picks are already in the neighbourhood of a 50% chance of never becoming more than a 4th liner).
guy was absolutely cracker jacked in nhl 12 and 13. i think thats why he thought he made it already. If his videogame self was ungodly his real life self must be too right?
Nicolas Jensen
Always like that Bo(w) and Hunter were drafted together.
Had the skill to make it but not the mindset or work ethic. Apparently teammates and coaches didn’t like him.
I remember watching his highlights when we drafted him, and I immediately hated him. Quick stickhandling, but very choppy, and hugely excessive celebrations every goal.
Some make it some don’t. With Shinkaruk he was always a high risk pick, but you had already made a relatively safe one with Bo so you could afford to take it. With these high-skill guys you hope they can grow and work on their flaws. Shinkaruk wasn’t able to do that and you need more than just good stickwork to cut it in the NHL.
Also his hip injury was far more serious than was reported, which may have played a role. At pre season camp, Hunter went through some of the testing protocols last —- with no other players around. The medical staff were very, very quiet as he struggled through some of the simple tests.
Source: Was working at the Canucks pre-season training camp.
So I feel like people are forgetting a really important nugget of his history. Shinkaruk went off in preseason as a rookie, and it looked like he was gonna make the team. Instead, we traded for Zac Dalpe and Jeremy Welsh, right before rosters were due. Both were on one-way contracts, so we sent Shinkaruk back to juniors. There he suffered a really bad hip injury and he was never the same.
Not much to say, a late 20s pick is just as likely to bust as they are to make the NHL.
There have been studies that look at decades of draft data. If you look at the odds of having a 100 game NHL career, once you drop outside of the top 10 or 15 picks, the odds of you having a 100 game NHL career drop below 50%. A second round pick has a 25% chance. A third round pick is only 10% likely to play 100 games.
Shinkaruk was taken 24th overall. He’d have to beat the odds to have a significant NHL career.
All I remember was people losing their minds when he got traded. Maybe one person said, « Guys, maybe he’s a career AHL-er and this is for the best? » Benning got roasted for trading him for Granlund. It was the right choice. Granlund played +300 games. Hunter barely played 15.
I was so choked when they didn’t take a defenceman with their next pick. It was supposed to be a reset draft for the organization, they took the C in Bo, next all they had to do was draft a D to take care of the 2 premier positions you should be drafting for – and plus the next dman on the board was a local kid to boot. Instead they swing for the fences on an undersized skill winger. I didn’t understand it then and i still don’t understand it today. This franchise baffles me.
We drafted him, that’s what went wrong. Not Gillis’s best choice
What happened to almost all our draft picks like ever
I think the nhl wasnt ready for small forwards. Rookies didnt get the ice time to show their offence, you basically had to be capable of 3rd line checking to eventually get a shot in the nhl or be top 10 at your position by 21. Shink was good enough to play imo but not good enough to secure a top 6 roll when he was developing. Caused him to just float by and eventually bust. I think he would be much more likely to succeed with same skillset if he were 20 years old today.