[Smith] Traqueur de commerce sauvage : l’agent de Brock Boeser travaillant pour faciliter un retour aux sources. « Ils essaient de déplacer certaines choses potentiellement. »
Wild trade tracker: Brock Boeser's agent working to facilitate a homecoming. “They’re trying to move some things around potentially.”
The latest from @RussoHockey + I on the Wild ahead of deadline https://t.co/RMWdekqa29
— Joe Smith (@JoeSmithNHL) February 22, 2023
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Going to have to bust the big calculator out because the math is a bitch to get this working for sure.
Will he take a massive pay cut?
uhhhhhhh
Didn’t expect to see this come across today…
Working the money math/players/picks to get this done will be interesting.
No No No No No
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> Hankinson pointed to how Guerin tried to make another Minnesota-born client, Ryan McDonagh, fit over the summer when the Lightning felt forced to move the top-four defenseman due to cap constraints.
> McDonagh had four years left on his deal at $6.75 million, but Hankinson said Guerin gave it a shot before the Lightning made a deal with Nashville. Hankinson noted that to fit McDonagh, Guerin would have had to “move probably a defenseman he definitely didn’t want to move.”
I give him 3 games until IR. This has to be a joke.
Why is everyone so horny for Boeser?
Okay if you are buying low and VAN is retaining a couple million. I just don’t know why they’d be selling him low right now and am worried the cost will be too much and his cap hit will be too high.
To this I say: [https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/11865uk/202223_vancouver_canucks_midseason_skater/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/11865uk/202223_vancouver_canucks_midseason_skater/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
No thank you.
The nice thing is that Greenway & Boeser’s terms are aligned. So if you got the Canucks to retain 50% you’re only taking on an incremental $325K per year.
From there its really about how much you think Gus and Gaudreau will cost to determine whether it works or not. They should be able to git Dewey in.
With Greenway gone your bigger decision is what you want to do with Addison since that may not work out unless you move both Goligoski & Merrill.
Smith just replied to a Tweet that this move is not imminent. So everyone, including myself need to calm your jollies.
I think his agent is leveraging the Wild and making stuff up hoping to drive up the price of an ongoing trade and sign with a different organization.
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Rationale:
He would run into the same problems we had with Fiala (i.e., an extension would either block Boldy’s contract or require numerous players to be traded). Since Boldy has now been extended, then we’d have to move multiple roster guys to squeeze Brock in beyond this season.
Even after Dumba’s contract is gone, we have 8.4 million of cap space remaining to either re-sign or affordable replace: Gus Bus, Gaudreau, Duhaime, Addison, Shaw, Reaves, Steel. See CapFriendly for reference. Re-upping the first 4 alone is gonna burn most/all this remaining cap.
Which means we’d have to free up nearly the whole cap that Brock’s remaining contract would occupy. Unless we are gonna trade either all three of Greenway, Fluery, and Foligno, or one of those guys plus Zucc, there’s not another reasonable option on our team. All our other contracts are either core guys like Spurge, Brodin, Ek, Boldy, and Kaprizov, or are value contracts that aren’t much more expensive than an ELC that would have to replace them anyways.
This is not a smart move longterm
I’m cool with it, as long as Billy isn’t giving up picks or prospects. Greenway/Dumba, late round picks would be ideal. What can’t the Wild do? Score. What does he do? Score.
but we’re like….poor and he’s not that good
Greenway for Boeser with 50% retained works. Otherwise pass. Definitely don’t want to give up any significant prospects or picks for him.
I know we’ll have to give up too much, I know this will probably mortgage our future in a way I currently find unacceptable, and I know Boeser isn’t necessarily the be all end all prospect he was a few years ago….
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….but I love him, I am so hype to see him in green, I want him to be the designated Boldy Buddy so bad, LET’S FUCKING GO!
Do it
Nucks fan here.
Boeser had an insanely elite debut season and took a pretty big ever since a significant back injury.
His skating is a pretty big issue – he makes up for it with pretty good hockey IQ but his injuries/other deficiencies in his game make him pretty much a complementary forward that needs to basically be played with elite play drivers. We also have an influx of wingers so he’s been pushed around the lineup quite a bit, off the PP, and hasn’t been able to find his stride, which isn’t entirely his fault given how unstable the team has been over the past couple seasons.
He actually had a very good bounce back season during bubble hockey and was arguably our best forward that season (he had the most points on the team). After that, I think he suffered a wrist injury which nullified a huge part of his competitive advantage, and earlier this year had another injury too. On top of that, he’s had to deal with his father passing away due to Parkinsons.
I’ve watched Boeser play for a long time now and I’ll be the first to tell you that he’s a shadow of him former self, and he’ll likely never come close to reaching his dominant prime which was his first season.
A bit part of his setbacks are due to injuries and his father’s passing, but I think a huge part of it (which has taken a toll on a bunch of Canucks players) is the ongoing instability between management, coaching, and roster changes which have resulted in a lot of stinted development and lost confidence. He just looks lost and honestly quite unmotivated out there, and it’s hard to blame him considering how bad the Canucks culture is and what he’s had to go through. I also don’t think our systems work with him – he’s the type of player that flourishes when he plays with other guys that really know what they’re doing, but is pretty useless otherwise.
I genuinely think this guy has the toolbox to be a very good / potentially elite top 6 guy, barring any other significant injuries. His skill and his IQ are definitely there, I think he’s just really unmotivated to play for us and therefore hasn’t established that consistency. There’s occasional glimpses where his elite top-end ability are on display, for example during 3v3 OT. He just needs a fresh start and maybe a really solid off-season.
I’m going to continue believing every boeser rumor is just journos doing Ben hankinson favors.
better keep our 1st if we make any deals.