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Top quality meme.
I was one of the people still hoping for a rebuild, even though they wouldn’t say it.
There was some hope from the Horvat trade and « major surgery » but that quote was ambiguous. It got the people going though.
The Canucks needed to recognize after the 2019-2020 season that they had two very special players in a 19 year old Quin Hughes and a 20 year old Elias Pettersson, and it was worth slowly building a contender around them. Instead they traded away a bunch of picks. Oh well.
I think the OEL + Garland trade fucked us.
I actually like our new management and have a lot of trust in them. I know…. 90% of this sub hates me. Old management left us in a shit position where we either rebuild, and that means losing Pettersson and missing out on Hughes’ and Demko’s prime, and probably losing out on Kuz too. Or we try to retool, that means steadily moving pieces to make us a contender. I really think the Horvat + Hronek deals were great. I think if a retool is happening, they’ve made the right moves.
I would be okay with a rebuild and losing Petey, but if a retool is what’s happening, I think it’s heading in the right direction.
The organization can build around petey, Hughes and demko but they can’t do it overnight. It won’t take 3+ years but every year they trade away picks and prospects makes the process that much slower. Signing miller, Kuzmenko and mikeyev instead of getting assets or trading assets for help this season and the next is counterproductive. There’s gonna be some pain if we want a contender and not just a one and done bubble team.
This organization constantly compromises the future for short term benefit yet they can’t even make the playoffs. Watch us buyout OEL and trade assets with Myers and still miss the playoffs next year. Oh and we don’t have a second rounder this year or the next
I actually hate the fact the fans are up in arms with with management about not rebuilding. They are just following a mandate from a fat headed blueberry picker.
Ownership hasn’t supported a rebuild in 20 years, what makes you think they will now?
I also hate the fact that the local media will constantly call out management but will rarely call out ownership. They don’t want their media passes revoked.
I’ve sadly come to terms that we will probably never win a cup with this ownership. Obviously re-tooling is not the answer but at least this management group seems much better at pro scouting than the last.
Yep that sums it up in a nutshell
Every year for the past like 10 years…smh
They also said “major surgery”
I still think that unless we move Hughes and EP40 we aren’t going to touch a rebuild
We really are in a terrible position where our track record screams rebuild but Peter and Hughes contracts are coming up
All credit to Aquaman and Benning
Honestly fair enough. It’s frustrating but we can’t change their plans and it’s not like we should be surprised. Maybe Hronek works out, he’s the missing piece, and we win the cup. Idk anymore bro
Feels like the problem is actually our own fans discounting how talented Quinn and Petey are. We lucked into bonafide 1OVR talents.
I find it comical that fans think we can just dip back into the draft and get players of their caliber again to build around. That’s way less likely than the retool succeeding, which is already unlikely enough.
And so what if the retool fails? Missing 2 years of a rebuild is way less than the variance you’d find in rebuilding anyways.
Retool vs rebuild is basically taking a 5% chance of being successful in the next 5 years over a 0% chance, without any effect on the team’s ability to be successful in the next 10+ years.
Both options fucking suck, but retool is the objectively correct decision with the hand we’ve been dealt.
They also said they needed to free up cap space for flexibility.
They also said they wanted to add draft picks.
They also said they didn’t want to trade away high draft picks.
They say everything and then whatever they do, it’s aligned with what they said.
MGMT: This is a retool not a rebuild
fans: this team sucks and needs a massive rebuild, not a retool
MGMT: retools
fans: *facepalm*
FTFY.
Hughes literally also said he doesn’t want a rebuild. That’s also completely ignored by fans that our top players don’t want to lose for several years just at a chance of high picks that may or may not develop years after those picks are done.
In *theory* I’m on board for a « retool ». The question is, with all the bad contracts plugging up our cap space, can we actually swap out enough parts to make us into a playoff team?
And if so, is doing that going to complete gut our draft pick stock and put us in even more shit down the road? (I’m just picturing a barren, late 2000’s era prospect pool without the presidents trophy winning team to show for it)