He lifted his skate off the ice. You kick by lifting your foot. You stop by keeping the blade on the ice. I don’t get it
TacoIgloo
As someone who has played soccer their entire life, I saw the replay and thought, “Oh, easy call. That’s a kick all day. Looked like a tap in soccer goal.” 🙃
Loud-Mastodon7529
When I heard the retired ref explain it I was even more confused 😕
Wrath0fMe
It’s 1999 all over again. The rules just dont matter. To not only make that call but overturn the call on the ice that was already made by the ref in real-time… I’m dazed. It really is Buffalo vs the world.
Solctice89
This game is going to make me forever despise espn hockey broadcasts… what in the fuck drugs are they on to think that wasn’t a kicking motion? Now they are saying it wasn’t a kick because it went in off his shin?? Fucking absolute bullshit
buffstuff
Worst call I’ve ever seen.
M_I17
When’s the last time we got a call?
doctormirdock
Regardless of that call. They weren’t gonna win that game. They played like fucking dogshit again
FiveFingerBidet
Just start throwing pucks in. You never know…
Skyline_BNR34
As a former Hockey ref myself, that would be called a No Goal in every league I’ve ever reffed in.
>A “distinct kicking motion,” for purposes of Video Review, is one where the video makes clear that an attacking Player has deliberately propelled the puck with a kick **of his foot or skate**…
If it goes in off his shin, it’s fine. Going forward, all skates must be knee-highs.
Roguemutantbrain
You absolutely cannot convince me that that call was not made in the interest of money. New York is a 30x bigger market than Buffalo. Sadly, it seems the league does not want us in the playoffs.
Mrbubbles03
I’m completely blown away that this was counted as a good goal.
helikoopter
Hang on. Are you really citing a definition of a “kick” that includes “with the foot”?
I mean, the puck literally did not touch his foot. So how did he kick it in?
duckster1974
In really hate that people say refs are against us and paranoid. But W.T.A.F. This is effing ridiculous.
InfadelSlayer
Holy, didn’t watch this game but during intermission they showed it and called it controversial. Dave Jackson got asked and he said it doesn’t even need to be a kick, if it’s any part of the body and not the stick, moving towards the puck it’s illegal. He lifts his skate up and moves his shin at the puck……no way in hell that be a goal, shouldn’t have even been looked at, so blatant
turtleslikemetoo
1999 all over again. Infuriating. Hope we’re not looking back at these two points come regular season end.
Jiggy724
Posting [this](https://youtu.be/nQgNNvvu_wU) video here as I think it does a pretty good job of illustrating how various rules are interacting on this play. Either way, I think whether it was a kicking motion or not is debatable, but I don’t think it’s as clearly horrendous as a lot of people around here seem to think.
AbjectDisaster
The commentators managed to drop my IQ 20 points hearing them talk about it.
No intentional kicking motion? He squared his foot and moved his leg forward to get the puck in the net. By their assessment, soccer involves no intentional kicking.
Such a crock of shit.
EpikCB
Was this overturned because of where it hit him on the kicking motion? because the rules states skate or blade and it hit above that?
beastlybowler
Hey OP, learn the rules.
I hated the call also. It sets a terrible precedent. But by definition of the rule, the kicking motion applies to the foot/skate and not the leg. Which was the case last night.
Again, I hated the call and it was terrible. Terrible loss all around. But still
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Can’t believe that call, I’m still so confused.
He lifted his skate off the ice. You kick by lifting your foot. You stop by keeping the blade on the ice. I don’t get it
As someone who has played soccer their entire life, I saw the replay and thought, “Oh, easy call. That’s a kick all day. Looked like a tap in soccer goal.” 🙃
When I heard the retired ref explain it I was even more confused 😕
It’s 1999 all over again. The rules just dont matter. To not only make that call but overturn the call on the ice that was already made by the ref in real-time… I’m dazed. It really is Buffalo vs the world.
This game is going to make me forever despise espn hockey broadcasts… what in the fuck drugs are they on to think that wasn’t a kicking motion? Now they are saying it wasn’t a kick because it went in off his shin?? Fucking absolute bullshit
Worst call I’ve ever seen.
When’s the last time we got a call?
Regardless of that call. They weren’t gonna win that game. They played like fucking dogshit again
Just start throwing pucks in. You never know…
As a former Hockey ref myself, that would be called a No Goal in every league I’ve ever reffed in.
Wtf, clearly a kicking motion.
Unpopular opinion: It wasn’t a kicking motion per [da rulez](https://scoutingtherefs.com/2021/10/32220/nhl-rulebook-distinct-kicking-motion-37-4-49-2-78-5/)
>A “distinct kicking motion,” for purposes of Video Review, is one where the video makes clear that an attacking Player has deliberately propelled the puck with a kick **of his foot or skate**…
If it goes in off his shin, it’s fine. Going forward, all skates must be knee-highs.
You absolutely cannot convince me that that call was not made in the interest of money. New York is a 30x bigger market than Buffalo. Sadly, it seems the league does not want us in the playoffs.
I’m completely blown away that this was counted as a good goal.
Hang on. Are you really citing a definition of a “kick” that includes “with the foot”?
I mean, the puck literally did not touch his foot. So how did he kick it in?
In really hate that people say refs are against us and paranoid. But W.T.A.F. This is effing ridiculous.
Holy, didn’t watch this game but during intermission they showed it and called it controversial. Dave Jackson got asked and he said it doesn’t even need to be a kick, if it’s any part of the body and not the stick, moving towards the puck it’s illegal. He lifts his skate up and moves his shin at the puck……no way in hell that be a goal, shouldn’t have even been looked at, so blatant
1999 all over again. Infuriating. Hope we’re not looking back at these two points come regular season end.
Posting [this](https://youtu.be/nQgNNvvu_wU) video here as I think it does a pretty good job of illustrating how various rules are interacting on this play. Either way, I think whether it was a kicking motion or not is debatable, but I don’t think it’s as clearly horrendous as a lot of people around here seem to think.
The commentators managed to drop my IQ 20 points hearing them talk about it.
No intentional kicking motion? He squared his foot and moved his leg forward to get the puck in the net. By their assessment, soccer involves no intentional kicking.
Such a crock of shit.
Was this overturned because of where it hit him on the kicking motion? because the rules states skate or blade and it hit above that?
Hey OP, learn the rules.
I hated the call also. It sets a terrible precedent. But by definition of the rule, the kicking motion applies to the foot/skate and not the leg. Which was the case last night.
Again, I hated the call and it was terrible. Terrible loss all around. But still