#hockey #lnh #ottawasenators Erik Karlsson est le favori pour remporter le trophée Norris cette saison… mais certains se demandent s’il le mérite vraiment en fonction de son jeu défensif et de la performance globale de son équipe. Dans cette vidéo, nous expliquons pourquoi ce récit est surutilisé et ce que cela signifierait si Karlsson pouvait obtenir 100 points en une saison.
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A defenseman is a person who defends. There's no scoring in that.
The Norris is giving to the best defensemen in the NHL.
Idk about a offensive defensemen award… I mean will this be voted, by points and/or, by goals? Who would it be named after? And if there was an offensive defensemen award they should defend properly by some sort of measure because its an offensive defenseman
People look at the numbers way too much and don't look into detail. When I mean detail I mean like expected goals, assists, etc compared to actual so people can see who gets robbed by goalies more than others. And another key factor is who they get their goals against because they could be getting a good amount of goals/points against bottom feeders. They could also be on absolutely stacked teams with stacked linemates, or be with terrible linemates and overall a terrible team.
Hey, hockey guy, fix your title. A reward is not an award, a reward could be anything. Jimmy Saville thought 15 minutes with him in his trailer would be a reward for a kid, you know?
I've been asking this question for years… There's a Selke award for best defensive forward, so why not have another one for best offensive defenseman?!
Are you really suffering through the Sharks just to watch Karllson ?? lol
Karlsson has always been a liability defensively. For the sens he had methot to clean up his messes. Here being on a bad team also allows the player to take higher risks because at the end of the day it doesnt really matter. On a team that is doing real well you would tend to play a little simpler more safe game. That all being said I havent really watched him since he left the sens being on the east coast and not really caring about the sharks so dont really know too much about his season other than numbers.
Karlsson deserves the Norris as it includes both offensive and defensive stats…. managing to get the points on the team he is playing is a miracle. you can not keep adding more trophies as it only will water down the meaning of the awards
Bottom five? My guy… my sharks are bottom 2 at best. EK65 has been so damn expensive. It's just great to finally see him play so well when we're an absolutely garbage club rn.
I'm looking at the list of winners, and it's extremely rare that the winner isn't also good defensively. Many of the winners (Bourque, Chelios, Lidstrom, Chara, Hedman) would probably have also won the award of the defenseman that is the hardest to play against. As long as we keep the pure offensive d-men winners for the years where they are truly exceptional – like Karlsson this year – I don't think we need another award.
Offense has always been overrated, if only because it is much more difficult to grade defensive skills.
There should be three awards, best offensive defensemen, best defensive defensemen and best overall defensemen
I don't see why not the forwards have the selke for best defensive forward
They have to split the Norris into two trophies. Orr trophy for offense and keep Norris for defense maybe. If someone truly is the best at both one year they should win both.
this is old news tho. very cool that karlsson has a resurgence.
I thought the trophy was supposed to got to the best all around defenceman
Karlsson is a guy that you ignore his bad defensive ability because he puts up points offensively. Makar, IMO, is a way better two way dman. Like you said, Karlssons defense is skating the puck out, not stopping plays or being solid in the corners.
There really needs to be a way to get this award figured out. Because Burns won it and he is also a terrible on the d side of the puck.
Many people have been advocating for two awards for years. I’m betting it’s going to be a while before it happens, if at all.
The Norris should be the best defensemen overall. add the Bobby Orr for the most productive defensemen. If the art Ross and rocket are 2 distinct awards, add the booby orr
Yes. Its a defensive award so its assumed that the trophy should be awarded the the best defender. It should be based on a player's ability to defend. When a team needs a shutdown defenseman they don't look to someone like Karlsson to fill that role. Nothing against Karlsson's offensive accomplishment, which is impressive, however, this doesn't make him the best defender in the league. If the defensive award is not based on a player's defensive ability then they should create another award that is.
Thank you for bringing that. There should be two trophies. As a hockey player, I find it really hard to play with a fully offensive defenseman.
As someone who really hates the Sharks I have to admit that he deserves the honors. Most players would have already shut down and enjoy the "fall hard for Bedard" he's still going on full cylinders and playing like they still have a playoff chance.
It's an award, not a reward.
With all due respect no he’s not the best at turning defense into offense. I’m sure it seems that way Bc he’s the only nhl caliber player for San Jose. He’s not as good as cale makar. Sorry brother. He’s just not. Just Bc the avalanche have other guys who can score doesn’t mean karllson is better than makar. If he were such a huge asset, a playoff team would probably want him….
Agree! It is amazing what Eric Karlsson have accomplished this season….and with a weak team as well to add.
He deserves 100% the Norris Trophy for best defenseman and is also IMO a nominee candidate for Hart Trophy as league MVP!
Bobby Orr was great FOR HIS TIME but it was a much-much simpler era where defense did not exist and goaltending was a joke compared to today.
Back then no one wanted to be the goalie and the goalies that was good for its time where few.
Imagine a best defensive defenseman award. Rob Scuderi might be a hall of famer if they had such an award. He'd probably have won like 10 of those.
Keep the Norris for the best defenseman and add one for the highest scoring D man, and name it after Bobby Orr.
While we're at at it, how about an award for the most assists named after Gretzky.
not watching the video but yes
I think the Norris has been tainted for a long time, but I also don't expect fans or even media to wise up about defense. Therefore I think the solution is really just a second award, voted on by players, that focuses on "overall" defensive performance by a defenseman. It should be called the Stevens Award. The end. Edit: holy crap you just said the exact same thing (I wrote that about halfway through the video)
Karl’s son is trying to be the living embodiment of “The best defense is a good offense” but he can’t make the best defense because the defense is trash 😂
3 years to late guys a bum
It's good to see him make a resurgence. I believe if he was on a line with some superstars, he would be doing even better.
It would be ridiculous for the NHL to care about a defenseman's defensive impact for deciding the Norris just when we're seeing one of the greatest performances from a defenseman ever.
I’m down as well for EK