Friedman sur 32 Thoughts (58 min) « Nazem Kadri a été très vocal sur ce qu’il a vu à Calgary cette saison et pourquoi ils ne tirent pas sur tous les cylindres Il a été très franc sur la communication entre les joueurs et l’entraîneur La frustration a débordé sur Samedi soir »
Friedman on 32 Thoughts (58 min mark)
“Nazem Kadri has been very vocal about what he’s seen in Calgary this season and why they aren’t firing on all cylinders
He’s been very blunt about the communication between players and the coach
Frustration boiled over on Saturday night”
— James Johnson 🔥 (@JamesJohnsonYYC) March 20, 2023
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Obviously Kadri has been playing like crap too so take this with a grain of salt but its become a chicken or the egg situation. Is Kadri playing like crap because he’s frustrated or is he frustrated that he’s playing like crap
What I don’t get is that since the all-star break Kadri has been invisible. If there was such a challenge between Coaching and players, and this is not saying there isn’t any weight there, what happened around the all-star that has turned him into a bottom 6 player?
Two more years of this.
Gl with that Flames
I dont know how this could surprise anyone. A lot of players on this team look like they checked out on Sutter a long time ago.
Sutter is the problem then?
Sutter should promise to retire if they win the cup. Everyone wins.
Needs to be some kind of balance. Sutter was great last year and seemed to have brought down the hammer on a team that looked like they ran the show with Ward at the helm.
His ego needs a check though. I feel like he thinks he’s gods gift to the bench and it’s getting old.
There is so much talent on that team. I’m not saying it’s all coaching but for sure it’s playing a role in their lack of success.
Kadri isn’t good .
It’s amazing how much management loves Sutter like they choose him over thete team…
With so many connected people saying pretty much the same thing, then you add in Kadri & Huberdeau’s clear frustration. Plus Tkachuk’s multiple not so veiled shots at Sutter. Plus Valimaki (and how he’s clearly doing much better in Arizona).
There’s a ton of smoke. And if it’s at best costing key signings to underperform or at worst costing us star players like Tkachuk and a first round defenseman like Valimaki – at what point does the management suck it up and make a change?
The drama never ends
But the smoke around Sutter is getting pretty thick now and harder to ignore.
This is a nothing burger. Does everyone love Sutter? No. But Kadri is playing like absolute shit, he would suck on any team right now. He tries to win games by himself in one shift, isn’t winning puck battles, his passing is unhinged and frankly he needs to fucking grow up and start playing for his contract.
Scary thing is, he will probably try and be the coach and GM next season.
Let Brad walk and Fire Sutter. Time to start the Conroy Era.
I am not a huge defender of Sutter. I will say not 12 months ago this entire thread was ready to give the man head in thanks for turning the franchise around..
Probably truth on both sides. I don’t think he is the most player friendly coach. I have never played high end sports but I have worked for what I would call difficult people in business.
If I have learned anything it’s if you come correct and and are on it tough bosses don’t matter as long as they are not out right dicks. If you don’t come correct then watch out. That doesn’t work for some people.
I am guessing same is true for some players. Is sutter a dick of a person? I mean maybe? I think more like he wants players to come correct and rides them hard and that isn’t going to work for everyone.
The final thing I’ll say is even when it works it is draining. Got the best possible out of John part time hockey. But the dude got to a place he picked Ohio…
Needs to be pointed out.
Changing speculation such as “I think he’s been very blunt” or “I’m betting some of that frustration boiled over in that game on Saturday night.” and spinning it into a claim is not good.
This James Johnson guy needs to give his head a shake.
Anyone have a link to what kadri said ?
I have said this months ago, that there has to be something go behind the scenes.
Kadri has two goals in as many months and is a combined -8 in that time.
I’m as diehard of a Flames fan as everyone on this thread, but not executing in the NHL is a kiss of death. Regardless if you’re a player or coach.
As a fan, let’s put all of our energy into them, creating some magic to sneak in, worry about the rest if they don’t.
From what I’ve heard behind the scenes about some incidents I don’t see how this team will ever accomplish anything with the current dynamic. There has to be a change and I don’t see how you can fire the players
Of course Kadri complains after being demoted
What happened on Saturday? Did I miss something important
Ownerships gonna clean house this offseason I predict 🤔
So Sutter is the problem for losing overtime 15 times. Sutter is the problem for giving up the lead twice. Sutter is the problem to life. Get outa here lol. I guarantee u, without Sutter, JG and MT wouldn’t have hit career years and Gudbranson would’ve still been making under a mill a year. They get paid millions. Suck it up for 3 hours every other night and play.
I wonder if this is why Kadri is on the 3rd line tonight?
It’s funny. As an adult, one of the most important moments in your life is when you realize you can’t just fucking blame everyone and everything else for your problems. Kadri can be pissed, but there are guys on this team that are stepping the fuck up… Toffoli, Dube, Andersson, Backlund, Weegar. All having excellent seasons and playing excellent hockey. The guys that are getting pissed in the media? Guys that are underperforming. Guys that aren’t committed to the system. I don’t doubt that Sutter doesn’t gel with everyone, but you’re professional athletes. You have to be able to be accountable to yourself and be able to motivate yourself, as well.
Special teams coach need to figure it out. If 3 on 3 was better and they won half those overtimes flames would be near the top
Players are professionals… Play the most of what you’re given if you’re not executing expect the duties you had to be dispersed as you’re now less valuable.
Communication goes both ways and thinm there are some miss aligned expectations because this isn’t working for w/e reason.
Coming from a very inside source, I don’t think people realize how much of a virus Sutter is to the entire organization. It’s not just the players who he is borderline abusive to. Training staff, coaches and front office staff all hate him and he negatively impacts how they all perform.
When he was in LA and the team was slumping, the players locked him out of the room because they couldn’t deal with him anymore. Imagine that, players conditioned their entire life to listen to and respect coaches locking their NHL coach out of the room. Hard to wrap your head around, but Calgary might not be too far off.
Direct that energy elsewhere Naz. I don’t think you can chalk your play entirely up to poor communication from the coach!
Not saying there isn’t validity to his complaints mind you. Just that he’s obviously struggling for more reason than whatever he’s claiming.
Not that I think Sutter is going anywhere soon, I’m just curious – which coach would be a good fit for this team?
This may be a hot take but I just think some coaches don’t work well with some players regardless of how good the players or coach happen to be. I think Sutter is still a good coach when managing players with a certain temperament and skill set but I also think he’s bad with managing different skill sets like the one our team has this year.
It doesn’t even stop with Sutter though. If Bednar was coaching a team like the Devils I don’t think they’d have the same success that they are having this year because the Devils don’t fit how Bednar coaches. I think we’re observing something similar with Sutter. Don’t tell me that everything worked last year because that might be true and yet our team this year is very different than last year and we have to accept that. We have so many players who are new. Huberdeau, Kadri, Pelletier, Duehr, Weegar and Gilbert are all completely new to the team either being brought in from somewhere else or rising the ranks from the minors. I just think we might need a new voice and a coach who connects with these players better. I think Mitch Love could be that guy or someone else
I was very very very excited when they brought sutter back but if this is true, you kinda have to can the guy when you’ve signed all these players to long term contracts…