You have to think whatever he did, Yzerman was not a fan.
SkunkMcToots
Wasn’t shocking to the rest of the league who didn’t claim him off waivers, apparently
PineconeNugget
I hope he succeeds wherever he plays.. Except Chicago, not allowed to succeed there.
ForkzUp
Since we’ll never hear Stevie’s side of this, I’m just going to take this with a grain of salt.
nickpegg
interesting
dudewithchronicpain
I support him and his journey (and don’t like people who shit on him and mental health/ possible addiction issues), but I trust Stevie on this one.
mschach88
Funny how? Peculiar funny like our friend dougy here? Or haha funny like shoving a 6 million dollar contract up your nose funny?
ashes1032
I have accepted that I’ll simply never know what was actually happening.
drtobogganbrule
I mean how could you expect to just be slotted right back into the lineup after not playing for so long? Strange.
cosmoscowboy_13
I’ll admit, I’m frustrated too. Frustrated we lost his production, and frustrated that we don’t know what happened.
If he had a drug/alcohol problem but didn’t injure anyone outside of himself, I’m frustrated that we let him go. How are we OK with McCarty being around again after being sober but wouldn’t give Vrana a shot? Maybe this wasn’t the first time he’s had an issue perhaps, but again, we don’t know.
bkaiser
I do think yzerman is a zero tolerance kind of guy.
some players respond well to it, others avoid a team if given an option.
different sport but it’s fascinating how the players on and off the lions want to play and go hard for the team due to only their leadership style.
bluewing99
I think Steve is a team first guy. When you decide you have to go to rehab as soon as the season started instead of in the offseason…
Michigent420
I get his side, but The Wings were rolling at the time, like the hottest they were all season.
JiffTheJester
Eh, I’m bummed. But there has to be more to this.
uknownick
He should just STFU 🤫.
At this point, just play to your best ability and don’t talk about the past. Prove yourself and move on. The chapter with Detroit is over.
Yzerman is doing you a favor for not speaking openly about what happened. And you keep digging the hole and throwing dirt at Detroit and Yzerman.
Unreal stuff.
For any occupation/job, openly complaining about your previous employer is never a good sign of professionalism. Big red flag.
MaxAnita
Hot take just from reading the room but I’m kinda on his side downvote if you will. Why do all that work, put him through the process then dump the kid for nothing?? We needed goals during our « push » and while riding all these empty streaks we could have inserted him and gotten some return for all the missed time and made both sides happy. Seems like lots of energy put nowhere good
ElectionAnnual
The only thing I didn’t like was sending him back down so fast. I understand our roster situation and we were rolling at the time, but I thought that was really bad for him considering his situation.
Good-Magazine-5504
Get your shit together vrana. Stevie is trying to run a business goddammit
youuuuwish
Really liked the kid… still do. Was bummed when we let him go, but if Yzerman didn’t think he fit with the program anymore then he had to go. Can’t have people messing up your locker room. Hopefully Vrana got a fresh start in St. Louis and gets his life and his career back on track.
_Kramerica_
Yzerman and co are doing him a favor by not absolutely burying him on whatever it is he did. And let’s face it, he did *something* fairly major to have been dumped for virtually nothing and 50% salary retained. And he’s out here making comment after comment using Yzerman’s professionalism against him.
At this point I’m done giving him the benefit of the doubt, he’s coming across as a whiny bitch. He could simply say “my time in Detroit taught me a lot but that chapter has closed and I’m trying to move forward and better myself and continue playing at a high level.” But instead he continues to whine about it.
I’m guessing the way he sees it is If Yzerman speaks out he gets to be the victim and clutch his pearls saying “I can’t believe he put my personal business out to the public!” And if Yzerman doesn’t say anything he gets to tell only his side and also be the poor victim.
OllieTabooger42
It’s unfortunate, but it’s over, and it’s well past time to move on. If Yzerman (whose management career hinges upon the long term success of the team) can get over it, we can too.
br0n0
Sounds like something everyone of us would say in that same situation.
If we were being 100% honest.
farstate55
Everyone is the victim/good guy of their own story. Two teams gave up on him. No one claimed him on waivers.
I hope he stays on track but he got more than his fair shot and the organization had enough.
ParlayKingTut
We miss you V
ando772
What about this for a random swerve.
We though my what a great deal in the Mantha return.
But Washington knew problems and we took it on 🤷🏻♂️
TnnVolFan_7
Has anyone seen any of the Red Wing players wishing him well when he got traded?
I’ve not seen any of that which makes me wonder if there were issues in the locker room too.
bfrankiehankie
Just because he got sober (presumably) doesn’t mean that anyone is obligated to forgive or forget the things that happened prior to him getting help.
Sneacler67
I think this guy is toxic
Wiz138
Feel bad for him and we have no context on the details but expecting trust unsteady of trying to earn trust back is where he went wrong
Torkamata
Vrana…grow up. Evreryone has issues, most dont have millions in the bank. Deal with it.
Btw – if you dont know what the problem is…then I will give you a hint…its You
HercHuntsdirty
People in here will dick ride Yzerman at all costs. As if no one in here has fought demons in their past.
We’ve had complete alcoholics on this roster over the years and, most recently, Bobby Ryan – a recovering alcoholic. Suddenly Vrana’s addiction & recovery is where we draw the line?
Like it or not, he was damn near the most talented player on this roster. Sometimes the GM should put his ego aside and ride out the player he signed rather than getting absolutely nothing in return. Riddle me how that helped us in the slightest way.
nicholasccc95
Boy this dude REALLY wanted that goal against us last night lol
justino
Besides the Yim Yam the final nail I heard was him refusing a coach/support person to be with him off ice to transition out of the substance abuse program. He took it like the team was putting secret police on him.
Shotokanguy
It’s pointless to dwell on him any longer. We’ll almost certainly never get the full story, there’s probably legitimate criticism to make of both sides, and at the end of the day there shouldn’t be any ill will. I hope this is as much as he says about it and as much as we say about him.
FakeTaxiCabDriver
So wait a minute. Kid starts doing blow or perkies, we hold onto him enough to get him to rehab, don’t say shit about it, send him to St. Louis (our partner in trade) so he can prove himself healthy again physically and mentally, and he’s gotta go off about Detroit and Stevie, like everyone is supposed to just forgive and forget? It’s a business too buddy and if you can’t be trusted you can’t be trusted. Not seeing much accountability in this quote.
Thebigd120
We really fumbled this one who has scored more goals per game than him in recent years
Turdhopper63
Hate today it but I think he was damaged when he first got to Detroit
Strypes4686
I Feel for him but…. Ken Holland would have welcomed him back with open arms and we see how that turned out.
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Yzerman seems to have little tolerance for players who don’t produce and has no issue trimming the roster. He’s not heartless but Vrana didn’t play much,he was with us for about 160 games (Season is 82 games,he joined at the 2021 deadline and left at the 2023 deadline) but played in only 54.
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My guess is that he rushed back to join the team at training camp and wasn’t prepared enough… and got hurt bad. His recovery required surgery and likely required pain killers,heavy painkillers. I’m guessing he got hooked and had to enter player assistance to break the habit. We’re at a stage where the prospects are trickling in and the Vets need to either carry weight or get moved.
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Yzerman doesn’t mess around…. and Vrana’s statement makes Stevie’s move look smart.
One-Sea-6153
People forget, Yzerman played thru the Probert & Klima drug & alcohol debacle and it really hurt the team. I’m sad tho 35 years later the team is still not willing to be more compassionate & open about addiction. Woooooo, I said the « A » word …which is the true Elephant in the Room. I hope Jake lands on his feet with his new team.
jackstalke
Pretty unprofessional stuff. I wish him well in St. Louis, but I’m glad the Wings moved on.
mmeweb3412
Waited until the season was about to start to address his shoulder issue
Waited until the next season started to address his “personal issue”
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You have to think whatever he did, Yzerman was not a fan.
Wasn’t shocking to the rest of the league who didn’t claim him off waivers, apparently
I hope he succeeds wherever he plays.. Except Chicago, not allowed to succeed there.
Since we’ll never hear Stevie’s side of this, I’m just going to take this with a grain of salt.
interesting
I support him and his journey (and don’t like people who shit on him and mental health/ possible addiction issues), but I trust Stevie on this one.
Funny how? Peculiar funny like our friend dougy here? Or haha funny like shoving a 6 million dollar contract up your nose funny?
I have accepted that I’ll simply never know what was actually happening.
I mean how could you expect to just be slotted right back into the lineup after not playing for so long? Strange.
I’ll admit, I’m frustrated too. Frustrated we lost his production, and frustrated that we don’t know what happened.
If he had a drug/alcohol problem but didn’t injure anyone outside of himself, I’m frustrated that we let him go. How are we OK with McCarty being around again after being sober but wouldn’t give Vrana a shot? Maybe this wasn’t the first time he’s had an issue perhaps, but again, we don’t know.
I do think yzerman is a zero tolerance kind of guy.
some players respond well to it, others avoid a team if given an option.
different sport but it’s fascinating how the players on and off the lions want to play and go hard for the team due to only their leadership style.
I think Steve is a team first guy. When you decide you have to go to rehab as soon as the season started instead of in the offseason…
I get his side, but The Wings were rolling at the time, like the hottest they were all season.
Eh, I’m bummed. But there has to be more to this.
He should just STFU 🤫.
At this point, just play to your best ability and don’t talk about the past. Prove yourself and move on. The chapter with Detroit is over.
Yzerman is doing you a favor for not speaking openly about what happened. And you keep digging the hole and throwing dirt at Detroit and Yzerman.
Unreal stuff.
For any occupation/job, openly complaining about your previous employer is never a good sign of professionalism. Big red flag.
Hot take just from reading the room but I’m kinda on his side downvote if you will. Why do all that work, put him through the process then dump the kid for nothing?? We needed goals during our « push » and while riding all these empty streaks we could have inserted him and gotten some return for all the missed time and made both sides happy. Seems like lots of energy put nowhere good
The only thing I didn’t like was sending him back down so fast. I understand our roster situation and we were rolling at the time, but I thought that was really bad for him considering his situation.
Get your shit together vrana. Stevie is trying to run a business goddammit
Really liked the kid… still do. Was bummed when we let him go, but if Yzerman didn’t think he fit with the program anymore then he had to go. Can’t have people messing up your locker room. Hopefully Vrana got a fresh start in St. Louis and gets his life and his career back on track.
Yzerman and co are doing him a favor by not absolutely burying him on whatever it is he did. And let’s face it, he did *something* fairly major to have been dumped for virtually nothing and 50% salary retained. And he’s out here making comment after comment using Yzerman’s professionalism against him.
At this point I’m done giving him the benefit of the doubt, he’s coming across as a whiny bitch. He could simply say “my time in Detroit taught me a lot but that chapter has closed and I’m trying to move forward and better myself and continue playing at a high level.” But instead he continues to whine about it.
I’m guessing the way he sees it is If Yzerman speaks out he gets to be the victim and clutch his pearls saying “I can’t believe he put my personal business out to the public!” And if Yzerman doesn’t say anything he gets to tell only his side and also be the poor victim.
It’s unfortunate, but it’s over, and it’s well past time to move on. If Yzerman (whose management career hinges upon the long term success of the team) can get over it, we can too.
Sounds like something everyone of us would say in that same situation.
If we were being 100% honest.
Everyone is the victim/good guy of their own story. Two teams gave up on him. No one claimed him on waivers.
I hope he stays on track but he got more than his fair shot and the organization had enough.
We miss you V
What about this for a random swerve.
We though my what a great deal in the Mantha return.
But Washington knew problems and we took it on 🤷🏻♂️
Has anyone seen any of the Red Wing players wishing him well when he got traded?
I’ve not seen any of that which makes me wonder if there were issues in the locker room too.
Just because he got sober (presumably) doesn’t mean that anyone is obligated to forgive or forget the things that happened prior to him getting help.
I think this guy is toxic
Feel bad for him and we have no context on the details but expecting trust unsteady of trying to earn trust back is where he went wrong
Vrana…grow up. Evreryone has issues, most dont have millions in the bank. Deal with it.
Btw – if you dont know what the problem is…then I will give you a hint…its You
People in here will dick ride Yzerman at all costs. As if no one in here has fought demons in their past.
We’ve had complete alcoholics on this roster over the years and, most recently, Bobby Ryan – a recovering alcoholic. Suddenly Vrana’s addiction & recovery is where we draw the line?
Like it or not, he was damn near the most talented player on this roster. Sometimes the GM should put his ego aside and ride out the player he signed rather than getting absolutely nothing in return. Riddle me how that helped us in the slightest way.
Boy this dude REALLY wanted that goal against us last night lol
Besides the Yim Yam the final nail I heard was him refusing a coach/support person to be with him off ice to transition out of the substance abuse program. He took it like the team was putting secret police on him.
It’s pointless to dwell on him any longer. We’ll almost certainly never get the full story, there’s probably legitimate criticism to make of both sides, and at the end of the day there shouldn’t be any ill will. I hope this is as much as he says about it and as much as we say about him.
So wait a minute. Kid starts doing blow or perkies, we hold onto him enough to get him to rehab, don’t say shit about it, send him to St. Louis (our partner in trade) so he can prove himself healthy again physically and mentally, and he’s gotta go off about Detroit and Stevie, like everyone is supposed to just forgive and forget? It’s a business too buddy and if you can’t be trusted you can’t be trusted. Not seeing much accountability in this quote.
We really fumbled this one who has scored more goals per game than him in recent years
Hate today it but I think he was damaged when he first got to Detroit
I Feel for him but…. Ken Holland would have welcomed him back with open arms and we see how that turned out.
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Yzerman seems to have little tolerance for players who don’t produce and has no issue trimming the roster. He’s not heartless but Vrana didn’t play much,he was with us for about 160 games (Season is 82 games,he joined at the 2021 deadline and left at the 2023 deadline) but played in only 54.
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My guess is that he rushed back to join the team at training camp and wasn’t prepared enough… and got hurt bad. His recovery required surgery and likely required pain killers,heavy painkillers. I’m guessing he got hooked and had to enter player assistance to break the habit. We’re at a stage where the prospects are trickling in and the Vets need to either carry weight or get moved.
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Yzerman doesn’t mess around…. and Vrana’s statement makes Stevie’s move look smart.
People forget, Yzerman played thru the Probert & Klima drug & alcohol debacle and it really hurt the team. I’m sad tho 35 years later the team is still not willing to be more compassionate & open about addiction. Woooooo, I said the « A » word …which is the true Elephant in the Room. I hope Jake lands on his feet with his new team.
Pretty unprofessional stuff. I wish him well in St. Louis, but I’m glad the Wings moved on.
Waited until the season was about to start to address his shoulder issue
Waited until the next season started to address his “personal issue”
Like come on man