We could have picked someone worse. Unfortunately that’s the best thing I can say about it.
6ix_TDot
Meh. Not a fan of this.
Hopefully I turn out to be wrong.
Reggae4Triceratops
Officially official?
wageslave_999999999
Let’s see what happens. Cup or bust.
JTG81
I am whelmed.
justmememe55
BRING ON THE BRAD ERA
BigMick20
Now onto trading Marner. Only have a month to swing a deal so let’s go.
082832
Well at least the news is going to pick up.
I think he keeps Keefe so he can fire him part way through the year if the team struggles. Gives him an easy person to put the blame on.
DeathEater91
Could have just stuck with Dubas.
Idiotic organization.
mikesully374826
Im convinced Shanahan literally just looked at his age and how many years experience he has.
« Well Lou was 120 and Dubas was 16 so yes! We need someone in the middle! »
Deluxechin
Did they interview anyone else? I only ever heard evidence of them interviewing Treliving, there was speculation of other candidates being interviewed but nothing else was ever reported, like it’s felt like MLSE has been foaming at the mouth for Treliving since the second he became available
Krazier
Hello Darkness my old friend
treetimes
What a dark and terrible timeline
losveratos
I’m supremely ready to be disappointed. I did not want this outcome. I would not have chosen this direction. I would not have also kept Keefe.
However… I’ll wait til July 1st (maybe a day or two afterwards) for my actual initial judgement of this. Maybe he re-signs the people worth keeping and adds some excellent value UFA targets to flip the script for me. Here’s hoping… because this is my team, ride or die. He’s the new boss. I wish him all the best. Please exceed my very shitty expectations, step over the pathetically low bar I have set up for you, and deliver us a great performing team this coming year.
DougFordsGamblingAds
It’s kind of ironic – the big knock on Dubas is that the roster might be good on paper, but couldn’t get it done in the playoffs. You could say the same of Treliving.
BUT Treliving had much less to work with. Worse coaching, worse ownership, less desirable city, worse core, worse front office staff. Hopefully he does better with more tools available.
Paulhockey77
Look as a flames fan coming in peace Brad isn’t that bad. The people saying that he “ruined the flames” are just uneducated asf
The Johnny situation was bad but he had no choice when it came to tkachuk. He didn’t want to sign long term and we got very good assets for him.
Brad’s biggest issue are contracts. He either signs guys for way too long and for too much money or he doesn’t sign players for long enough (tkachuk). He also like to go out and sign players that either have no need to be there or that on the older side (Neal, Brouwer, Rooney)
His biggest plus is drafting. He’s found a bunch of gems in later rounds (Mangiapane, Wolf, etc). He also drafted Gaudreau, Tkachuck, Bennett and Fox (not our fault that he didn’t want to play anywhere but New York lol)
His biggest mistake was no doubt the tkachuk bridge deal. I have no doubt that if he signed chucky long term he would’ve still been in Calgary. Brad had his work cut out for him in Matthews and nylander.
Philthey
Old boys club
Hire your friends even if they suck at their job.
Dubas wasn’t immune to this either. Soo Greyhounds cough cough
I have zero expectations other than losing players for zero or lesser value than what they’re worth.
slashthepowder
So we let go a gm because he couldn’t get a cup to get another person who (checks notes) has never won a cup.
real_gud_pro
finally – a grown up
Sammydaws97
Imo, he was one of if not the best option available.
That being said, i think this is a downgrade from Dubas.
Split_Finger19
I gave Dubas the benefit of the doubt and we have one second round appearance to show for it. I’ll do the same with Treliving
FromDwight
I think when Dubas gets hired as Penguins President and GM this will all make sense. Dubas probably knew he had the Pens presidency waiting for him and told MLSE he’d only stay on as « just GM » if he had the power and pay of a president.
Obviously Leafs already have a president, so MLSE chose Shanahan over Dubas for the presidency and the rest is history. He was never going to stay as a GM when he had more comfortable and lucrative situations waiting for him out there.
a1cd
I’m excited to see what he can do with the resources that MLSE and the Leafs have.
omglolnub
Does it really matter since Shanahan wants to be the GM for making trades and signing players? Like, who cares about who can handle the day to day GM activities like getting the travel visas in order and all that.
Longshanks123
Idk why you guys are so down on this hire, Treliving seems like very good GM.
My only worry would be if Shanahan handcuffs him from firing Keene or trading a big piece.
Sharkbait11
Stellar work from brad. Signed hubs to 10.5 mil per year until he is 38, Kadri to 7 mil until he is 37, then peace out to a new job so he doesn’t need to deal with the franchise crippling contracts.
EddyMcDee
If this causes us to lose Pridham were fucked.
man_in_the_suit
I think that Shanny being the active leader in Gordie Howe hattricks when he retired his finally coming home to roost.
12xubywire
I’d just like to point out we fired a guy who made the playoffs 7 years in a row. Put up record breaking seasons, was 4th in the league this year, won a championship as the GM of our minor league team, finally won a round. Built an analytics department, hired the best people available, well loved by everyone who worked for him. Managed to keep our core players together, filled in the team with a flat cap.
And replaced him with a guy who’s basically here because his dad owns a big pizza franchise.
Parzival091
I feel…not apathy, but I’m pretty in the middle with it. Could have done a lot worse, but Bradley Pizza isn’t the most inspiring name ever. I was hoping Tulsky would get some serious consideration, but I understand the aversion to a 2nd straight rookie GM.
At the end of the day, Treliving is coming into a much different situation here than he ever had in Calgary, so it’s difficult to judge if his mistakes will be repeated. If Pridham sticks around, then I’m not too worried about handing out bloated contracts to players who could kill our cap, and that was probably his biggest knock in Calgary – combine that with Toronto actually being an attractive place to play, and it’s probably a decent leg up on what he’s had.
Ultimately, I think/hope this ends up becoming a situation where the expectations are unreasonably low for a GM whose done a fairly decent job playing the hands he’s been dealt, that he actually ends up becoming fairly well regarded here, as time goes on.
Thoughtful_Giraffe
1 – Kyle hold a press conference and mentions how a big change to the core would have to be well thought out and executed “like what they did in Calgary with Tkachuk”
2 – Shanny’s “thinking changed” on the situation during that presser
3 – Shanny hires the GM who made that exact trade Kyle pointed to as a potential blueprint
StatGAF
This screams Leafs panic hire unfortunately. Feels like « best candidate available » than the right candidate available.
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We could have picked someone worse. Unfortunately that’s the best thing I can say about it.
Meh. Not a fan of this.
Hopefully I turn out to be wrong.
Officially official?
Let’s see what happens. Cup or bust.
I am whelmed.
BRING ON THE BRAD ERA
Now onto trading Marner. Only have a month to swing a deal so let’s go.
Well at least the news is going to pick up.
I think he keeps Keefe so he can fire him part way through the year if the team struggles. Gives him an easy person to put the blame on.
Could have just stuck with Dubas.
Idiotic organization.
Im convinced Shanahan literally just looked at his age and how many years experience he has.
« Well Lou was 120 and Dubas was 16 so yes! We need someone in the middle! »
Did they interview anyone else? I only ever heard evidence of them interviewing Treliving, there was speculation of other candidates being interviewed but nothing else was ever reported, like it’s felt like MLSE has been foaming at the mouth for Treliving since the second he became available
Hello Darkness my old friend
What a dark and terrible timeline
I’m supremely ready to be disappointed. I did not want this outcome. I would not have chosen this direction. I would not have also kept Keefe.
However… I’ll wait til July 1st (maybe a day or two afterwards) for my actual initial judgement of this. Maybe he re-signs the people worth keeping and adds some excellent value UFA targets to flip the script for me. Here’s hoping… because this is my team, ride or die. He’s the new boss. I wish him all the best. Please exceed my very shitty expectations, step over the pathetically low bar I have set up for you, and deliver us a great performing team this coming year.
It’s kind of ironic – the big knock on Dubas is that the roster might be good on paper, but couldn’t get it done in the playoffs. You could say the same of Treliving.
BUT Treliving had much less to work with. Worse coaching, worse ownership, less desirable city, worse core, worse front office staff. Hopefully he does better with more tools available.
Look as a flames fan coming in peace Brad isn’t that bad. The people saying that he “ruined the flames” are just uneducated asf
The Johnny situation was bad but he had no choice when it came to tkachuk. He didn’t want to sign long term and we got very good assets for him.
Brad’s biggest issue are contracts. He either signs guys for way too long and for too much money or he doesn’t sign players for long enough (tkachuk). He also like to go out and sign players that either have no need to be there or that on the older side (Neal, Brouwer, Rooney)
His biggest plus is drafting. He’s found a bunch of gems in later rounds (Mangiapane, Wolf, etc). He also drafted Gaudreau, Tkachuck, Bennett and Fox (not our fault that he didn’t want to play anywhere but New York lol)
His biggest mistake was no doubt the tkachuk bridge deal. I have no doubt that if he signed chucky long term he would’ve still been in Calgary. Brad had his work cut out for him in Matthews and nylander.
Old boys club
Hire your friends even if they suck at their job.
Dubas wasn’t immune to this either. Soo Greyhounds cough cough
I have zero expectations other than losing players for zero or lesser value than what they’re worth.
So we let go a gm because he couldn’t get a cup to get another person who (checks notes) has never won a cup.
finally – a grown up
Imo, he was one of if not the best option available.
That being said, i think this is a downgrade from Dubas.
I gave Dubas the benefit of the doubt and we have one second round appearance to show for it. I’ll do the same with Treliving
I think when Dubas gets hired as Penguins President and GM this will all make sense. Dubas probably knew he had the Pens presidency waiting for him and told MLSE he’d only stay on as « just GM » if he had the power and pay of a president.
Obviously Leafs already have a president, so MLSE chose Shanahan over Dubas for the presidency and the rest is history. He was never going to stay as a GM when he had more comfortable and lucrative situations waiting for him out there.
I’m excited to see what he can do with the resources that MLSE and the Leafs have.
Does it really matter since Shanahan wants to be the GM for making trades and signing players? Like, who cares about who can handle the day to day GM activities like getting the travel visas in order and all that.
Idk why you guys are so down on this hire, Treliving seems like very good GM.
My only worry would be if Shanahan handcuffs him from firing Keene or trading a big piece.
Stellar work from brad. Signed hubs to 10.5 mil per year until he is 38, Kadri to 7 mil until he is 37, then peace out to a new job so he doesn’t need to deal with the franchise crippling contracts.
If this causes us to lose Pridham were fucked.
I think that Shanny being the active leader in Gordie Howe hattricks when he retired his finally coming home to roost.
I’d just like to point out we fired a guy who made the playoffs 7 years in a row. Put up record breaking seasons, was 4th in the league this year, won a championship as the GM of our minor league team, finally won a round. Built an analytics department, hired the best people available, well loved by everyone who worked for him. Managed to keep our core players together, filled in the team with a flat cap.
And replaced him with a guy who’s basically here because his dad owns a big pizza franchise.
I feel…not apathy, but I’m pretty in the middle with it. Could have done a lot worse, but Bradley Pizza isn’t the most inspiring name ever. I was hoping Tulsky would get some serious consideration, but I understand the aversion to a 2nd straight rookie GM.
At the end of the day, Treliving is coming into a much different situation here than he ever had in Calgary, so it’s difficult to judge if his mistakes will be repeated. If Pridham sticks around, then I’m not too worried about handing out bloated contracts to players who could kill our cap, and that was probably his biggest knock in Calgary – combine that with Toronto actually being an attractive place to play, and it’s probably a decent leg up on what he’s had.
Ultimately, I think/hope this ends up becoming a situation where the expectations are unreasonably low for a GM whose done a fairly decent job playing the hands he’s been dealt, that he actually ends up becoming fairly well regarded here, as time goes on.
1 – Kyle hold a press conference and mentions how a big change to the core would have to be well thought out and executed “like what they did in Calgary with Tkachuk”
2 – Shanny’s “thinking changed” on the situation during that presser
3 – Shanny hires the GM who made that exact trade Kyle pointed to as a potential blueprint
This screams Leafs panic hire unfortunately. Feels like « best candidate available » than the right candidate available.