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I dont know what to think about this move . Oel had s bad contract but now his contract is going to hinder the canucks for even longer period of time . Sometimes the canucks are better just to take the medicine but often it leads to an even worse situation .
Benning will never work in the NHL in a leadership role ever again. 🔥hot take🔥
Wooo-Hoooo!
I like Larsen as a person, but I'm so happy they got this done.
Have to wait until Monday for Donnie and Dhali, but I knew you guys would post about this asap!!!!!
So the consequences of the Louis Erickson signing will last from 2016 to 2031 – 15 years of misery and financial hell. #thankyoujim
The pain Blake that I think you are referring to comes in years 3 and 4 with a cap hit around 4.7 million. You are still saving 2.5 million in those years because you would have been paying OEL 7.2. Years 5-8 they'll be paying him 2.1 a year but who cares. The cap will likely be pushing 95+ million by then.
God Jim, you clown
Thanks for doing this guys
This was the right choice in my mind, as long as we use the cap space properly
And the really brilliant part is Petterson will be retiring at the same time the buyout finishes and they'll have huge space.
It is a mistake from owner & past management. Allvin tried to fix this f**k up and this is the only option. It sucks, but was all that was left
6 to go Benning core 1 Down
This is temporary stay afloat money.
They need a top 4 d-man to eat up OEL's 20m TOI. That'll take 5 million. At least.
They have to extend RFA Petey with a qual offer at 8.8M.
That keeps VC the same.
VGK, EDM, LAK, and Kraken are all AHEAD of them.
VC will be fighting with CALG, WINN, and NASH for wild card #2.
That's about the best they can hope for.
And to do that little, they'd need a 10 point improvement.
As if.
And all to be a likely first round knockout in 4 or 5 games.
The VC tradition continues.
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Any move (or moves) the Canucks were going to make would inevitably involve a significant level of “pain” and risk. I personally think that this was the best move that they could make, for all the reasons that you guys mentioned. Now let’s see what they do with the advantage they have gained.
Just a personal pet peeve with almost all commentary on buyouts. Teams like the Canucks always spend to the cap limit. This buyout is not costing ownership any additional money, as it reduces the amount that they can spend on player contracts. So, they would be spending the same amount of money with or without the buyout. They just have less money to spend on players who are currently on the roster.
What does cost owners extra money is the salaries that are buried on LTIR, which is extra money for players who are physically unable to play, and nobody seems concerned about those.
The only issue for the Canucks, assuming that OEL isn’t able to play anywhere near a level that makes his cap hit acceptable, is the years after his contract expires, because the money they’ll save over the next four years, assuming that the cap rises significantly after the upcoming season, gives them the flexibility to replace him and upgrade the team at other positional needs. The $2.5 million cap hit during the four years after his contract expires isn’t exactly chump change, but I think it’s a risk that’s well worth taking.
Boeser for Pesce one for one. They need scoring, you need a d man.
Jim Benning the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you Benning for being the dumbest GM in the world. 😂
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Can’t wait for Larsson to sign for a couple million on a contender and be a fantastic second paring dman.
Jet Woo gonna teplace him… he sux
hopefully OEL has saved some money
Massive mistake. Way too short term. This is going to be a ghost for a decade now. 4.7mil!!!!! in 25-6 and 26-7………Boy is that a crunch.
I will never understand this. I would rather move the asset/sweetener than take that 4.7mil cap hit.
So is this their timeline/goal?
23-24: get better make playoffs. No bad cap hit.
24-25: Build from last years success. Face 2.4mil cap hit.
25-26: The last two years have improved. This is the year to take another step. 4.7MILLION cap hit.
26-27: Same situation as before. 4.7 Million cap hit.
27-28: Aftering failing to improve the last 2 years they stagnate and retool on the fly. Buyout JT MIllers last years?
We couldn't move a winger or a dman with a 2nd+prospect and get the same result (cap saving immediately) without putting an anchor in the future? Management better have some great cheap signings in FA or I they are going to get cleaned out after training camp.
Its going to be a good Christmas!
Signed;
Oliver Ekman-Larsson.
There's really only 2 seasons where this painful & its mitigatable with other players coming off the books. What they really need is Lettermaki and 2023 11th OA player providing then cheap value on their ELCs for those 2 years when the dead space is at its most onerous
Upon further reflection, perhaps Aquaman is seeing thee price Ottawa is getting, and thinking of selling? Make the team look really good next year and get a buyer to believe the hype without seeing the long term problems of the market.
This could have been avoided by not trading for Hroneck
And now the real difficult part is to not get into a cap situation again
Thanks guys. The hardest working men in sports media. No D & D month off for you two Iron men! And yes, I was one of the 36%. Congrats on Canada cracking the 40M mark at noon today and also to the Couv for getting out from under that Grand piano hanging over the suits.
I see the economy being ok for the next two years.. probably see some decent bump in cap space.. Only thing that inflation still is hitting in general is food prices.. i think in the US consumers still spending on entertainment..
I maintain the worst trade in Canucks history was the Michael Grabner for Keith Ballard trade. I’ll break it down. We lost an excellent young player who could do it all in both ends of the ice in his rookie year. We lost Steve Bernie’s who was cheap and rugged and had enough talent to play a solid third line role. We lost a shot at Evgeny Kuznetsov in the draft. We added a useless over rated D man who saddled them with 4.5 million in cap hit and the coach wouldn’t play in the playoffs unless he had to. Imagine the 4.5 million being put towards a useful player. We lost our shot at the Stanley cup because we were not deep enough with all the injuries to wrestle it away from the bruins
short sighted ass move by a desperate management team as usual, Benning must still be pulling the strings behind the scenes 🙄
Dose vancuver have to pay all of the buy out or is Arizona coyote have to pay 12% of it as they are paying 12% of his contract or am i wrong
OEL is not an NHL level player. I suspect he doesn't get a contract in NA. Probably back to EU.
Good segment.
I'm a Jets fan in Winnipeg who is intrigued by the Canucks situations and dilemmas. Here's my question: which defensemen, realistically from around the league, would the Canucks have a shot of landing in a trade? And what would be the cost in terms of assets on their current roster? Would their 1st round pick be on the table?
They better not use all the money and spend up to the cap again! I would have rather seen the Canucks wait one more year. See if he could bounce back a bit as depth defenceman now that we have Hronek to eat up big minutes. This is also the last year of Myers so we will have another $6mil in room for next year!
Stop saying behooved
Great move by the new management buying out a huge mistake by Benning, a trade that'll make him never be hired in any role again. Even with the cap hit its an addition by subtraction. Thats how bad OEL is and coaches having to play him around 20 min a night because of his contract. Be way better off having him nowhere near the ice or around the team. Thanks for having instant reaction, two of the best in the biz.
I remember when Philly bought out Steve Duschene and he signed with Detroit, played great and won a cup in 2002.
Canucks are far more entertaining off the ice than on .
When Hughes and Petey are in their prime in two years, the Canucks will be once again up against the cap unable to bring in players to truly contend for the Stanley Cup. Hurray for mediocrity!