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Is this the most unique Stanley cup win in NHL history?
Florida did something pretty similar: they have only three drafted players on their squad (Barkov, Ekblad, Lundell). They trade incredibly well, such as turning Brandon Montour into a 73-point defender, doubling Sam Bennett’s point production, and turning Verhaeghe from an AHL nobody to the Panthers’ top goal scorer this season.
ya the fatasny draft was so stupid i suggested they get the first 30 picks in the draft that year would of made more sense , then they can run threw free agents aswell and or trade some of the players they picked but cherry picking the nhl is fucked
I got into hockey because of Urinatingtree, the first year I was set to watch hockey just so happen to be the Knight's first year so I decided to cheer for the new team.
Heres hoping quebec gets one <3
My opinion: the NHL fucked up the expansion drafts. 18 people being protecred was too much, however, 11 is too little. Vegas went to the stanley cup final in 2 years time, it is ridiculous. One thing is for a team to be competitive, another thing us a team to go to the final in 2 years. If nhl had made teams protect 13 or 14 players, vegas could have stayed competitive, but not that successful.
Vegas didn’t deserve their championship. They were completely handed/stole their core from other teams. Gary let them do it for money
Its all balance. Depth pure and simple. The league is mired in the idea that one or two “stars” can carry a team to a cup. It didn’t work in Calgary, its not working in Toronto, and the poor fans in Edmonton are learning it two years running. Seattle is following the Vegas model that has created the new standard for NHL teams. IMO
Maybe I missed it, but who decided to alter the expansion draft rules? Commissioner? Owners? Was there a vote?
The reason Vegas is disliked is they were given way too much advantage. With no trade contracts and depth, those teams were raked over the coals. Then they act like all the players they got were unwanted cast-offs.Not the case good teams lost good young players and the scales were tipped and only taking five years to win a cup shows it. You cant blame them you can blame the NHL.
It also helps that free agents would rather play in Las Vegas
Canucks are going to be in mediocre hell for the next little while
@robtalkshockey you should do a video of highest paid players per minute of ice time. I wonder where Reeves would land on that list?
You should also make a video about how Tampa's Stanley Cup core is falling apart this offseason
still find it hilarious when they had their expansion team picked out everyone said they'd go nowhere and they'd be in the basement of the nhl for years, then immediately after they found success and made the cup final year one the narrative shifted 180% to "oh they were handed a team". year one it was a bunch of 2nd and 3rd line guys at best that kinda just worked together in the new team environment. people are just salty that vegas has had success
I do love that Florida deal.
Vegas- Hey Florida, we want that one guy
Florida- well the only way you get him is if you take one of our best players for free! Hes small so we dont like him!
Vegas- but we only want one player
Florida- YOU ARE TAKING TWO!!!
Vegas- ok……we will take two…..
Florida turns holds the phone away from their mouth- hey guys, i just tricked Vegas into takeing Marchessault 😂😂. Hes only 5'9 😂😂😂
I just want my my team to win one more cup that’s all I want but they refuse to rebuild
This is why I love Vegas. They understand the league better than anybody else. I'm glad they've been my no.2 since day 1 (I live in Edmonton so it has to be the Oilers, but I was born in Utah and Vegas is closest).
Is this the moneyball moment ?
It just baffles me how much NHL GMs were willing to pay to protect depth guys. You will never see anything like this expansion draft in the NHL again
Expansion out perform because theyre gifted teams. The owners fault really, they only care about selling jerseys. Expansion teams get to pick stud teams.
I think the main problem with Vegas winning the cup, is that no one watched it. The worst stanley cup finals viewership since they started tracking viewers in the 80s is a really bad takeaway. NHL has went from the tied third with the NBA for most watched sport to not in the top 10 in under 30 years. NHL definitely has a culture problem, but not one that a single teams trading ability can fix.
Hey Florida fans,
Look I know as a Vegas fan you guys haven’t won or been to a final in 20 + years but………………
I missed the part where that was my problem, wait another 20 + years and just be better.
All the best
Vegas Fans ⚔️🤺⚔️
Jimbo Slice hahaha
So basically if you are a GM and vegas calls you about a 3rd or 4th liner, immediately hang up and start giving him more ice time 😂
I missed the part where questioning the traditional route that wasn’t working anyways, is a bad thing and why….
Just goes to show how corrupted Bettman's Garage League really is.
I'd be curious if the numbers were closer to the last 5 winners if you included players picked from the expansion draft. Not that it should be included, but also guys they got for not picking others in the expansion draft. IE looking at guys who have been with the org the last five years. Looking at the names you brought up, it looks like they may not be quite as high as Caps or Blues, but they might be more comparable. Ultimately thought provoking content, so good on yeah!
Only reason I mention it, is of course they are going to have a small amount of draft picks playing for them five years out. Most middle to late round picks that might make it, are 22-23 and might just be cresting from the minors now. (Highly touted guys aside). I just think that number might be a little leading, even if the general point you're trying to make about Vegas recycling teams excess to find proper game changers. Wild Bill, Marchesualt etc.
Ultimately, Vegas has should be commended for the salary cap dancing + aggressive moves they have made over the last five years. Getting Eichel, if you get a chance at a player like him you do it, but you run the risk of Tuch kind of being one of those sleeper guys and becoming a star in Buffalo that Vegas is so good at unearthing. They won it all, it's beside the point!
Furthermore, doing the Stone deal, bringing in Lenher, moving out Fleury, finding other solutions in net as they have needed them, bringing in Peitrangelo. I feel like the boom bust cycle of the cap will catch them eventually, but they have done an admirable job of extending their competitive window further then I'd have guessed it was going to last when I looked at them finishing as finalists to Washington.
I will say, the NHL has learned from its expansion experiments in Atlanta, Nashville, Columbus and Minnesota. They expansion drafts were far less helpful, and if you ask me the pendulum has swung maybe a tad too far in the opposite direction, but I am glad the two new teams have a chance to build/generate interest. The league adapted and didn't play ball with Seattle like they did with McPhee, but they kept their powder dry, stuck to the model of taking alot of quality D-men, their a tough team to manage, they play alot of close games which probably cost them on the margins in year one, but are definitely no joke as we all saw in the play offs this year.
The oilers fan in me is both excited and nervous to see the pacific growing stronger with LA, SEA and LV all tough teams. Who knows maybe Anaheim or one of the other teams will take a surprise step forward.
This entire video can be summed up to, "The Golden Knights are really good at scouting players teams don't want, and it's not fair!"
I was like SOOOOOO nervous when Mark Stone was lifting the Cup. I was like "Dont injure your bad back that miraculously got better day 1 of the NHL playoffs Mark Stone." THANK GOD Marks bad back got miraculously bet ter, and all is well in Vegas. What a miracle.
Idk a lot of the players they picked were already solid or still developing
Also kind of helps when you are $15M over the cap bit of a bonus there that was skirted over
tldr, GM's in the NHL are the worst qualified GM's in all the major sports. Getting anyone remotely competent in front office will run to quicker success. This is why Canadian teams are 0-30.
My biggest question with how they Knights are being run is, is it sustainable long term? Eventually teams will either be very careful making deal with Vegas, OR teams will start operating just like Vegas, and thus, Vegas won't be so special. With Vegas' cap issues and lack of prospects, they'll eventually run out of assets to flip. In theory, at least. They can probably keep it up for a few more seasons, but I just can't see it being a super long term way of doing things. They bought their cup, but that is always going to be at the cost of the team down the stretch.
totally fabricated….. Just be happy for the team that WON….. Nobody "gave" them anything – they EARNED IT.
Sorry your team didn't win , Mr. Sour Grapes.
the 3rd team in 8 years to circumvent the cap to win the cup🙄 im a hawks fan and ill admit 2015 was bs
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ok enough suckin off george hes been around lots of yrs with no cups and its huge being able to draft 2 players from each team
Ironically, the NHL authorities prove that socialism works. Spread out harvest and let it grow in other places. But they're too greedy to make that connection.