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Long post follows with base game statistics including some for Tampa Bay. Read, don't read, up to you. These are BASE stats not detailed ones.
Statistics for Edmonton Oilers at Tampa Bay Lightning November 18th, 2023
Edmonton:
Ryan 2 Goals (1 Shortie)
Hamblin 1 Goal
Bouchard 1 Goal
Nuge 2 Primary Assist (1 Shortie, 1 4 on 4)
Ceci 1 Secondary Assist (Shortie)
Foegele 1 Primary Assist (Gold Star for doing the lions share of the work on Ryans 2nd goal)
Ekholm 1 Secondary Assist
Skinner 18 Saves on 23 Shots = .783 Save Percentage (mostly not on him)
Lightning:
Kucherov 2 Goals (1 PP, Nurse Penalty), 1 Primary Assist (PP)
Jeannot 1 Goal
Stamkos 1 Goal (PP), 1 Primary Assist (PP, Nurse Penalty)
Glendening 1 Goal
Point 2 Secondary Assist (PP, Nurse Penalty end of the 1st and Hyman Penalty in the 3rd)
Sergachev 1 Goal (Empty Netter, Unassisted after Skinner pulled), 1 Primary Assist, 1 Secondary Assist
Eyssimont 1 Primary Assist
de Haan 1 Primary Assist
Raddysh 2 Secondary Assist
Johansson 39 Saves on 43 Shots = .907 Save Percentage
Oilers TB Lightning
Shots on Goal 43 24
Hits 14 21
Faceoffs Won 25 34
PP 0/5 2/4
Giveaways 5 8
Takeaways 4 7
Blocked Shots 12 16
3 Stars: 3-Ryan (2 Goals), 2-Sergachev (1 Goal, 2 Assists), 1-Kucherov (2 Goals, 1 Assist)
Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways
Nurse 24:21 2 1 2 2 3 0 0
Bouchard 23:30 6 -2 2 0 4 0 0
Ekholm 20:12 4 0 0 1 1 0 1
Ceci 18:49 2 2 4 0 1 0 0
Kulak 14:47 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Desharnais 11:48 1 0 5 2 1 0 0
Draisaitl 23:15 1 -2 0 1 0 2 2
McDavid 23:00 4 -2 0 2 0 0 1
Hyman 21:52 3 -2 2 0 0 0 0
Nuge 20:34 2 1 0 0 1 0 0
Kane 17:50 6 -2 0 3 0 0 0
McLeod 15:12 2 -1 0 1 0 0 0
Foegele 12:53 2 0 0 0 0 1 0
Brown 10:24 1 0 0 0 0 1 1
Ryan 10:10 3 2 0 0 0 0 0
Gagner 10:03 3 0 0 0 1 0 0
Hamblin 7:02 1 2 0 0 0 1 0
Erne 6:28 0 1 0 2 0 0 0
Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
Draisaitl 12 5 73.7
McLeod 4 6 40.0
McDavid 3 10 23.1
Ryan 2 3 40.0
Nuge 1 4 20.0
Hamblin 1 3 25.0
Erne 0 1 0.00
We got depth scoring. Ryan (from Nuge and Ceci) on a shortie that glided in (I mean I think the Goalie thought the D got it as Ryan couldn't actually get a shot off but it just kept going) and Hamblin (first NHL goal) then 3/4 of the way through the 2nd Ryan scores AGAIN (assists to Foegele and Ekholm). Both first goals of the season (and 2nd for Ryan). Foegele did all of the work on the 2nd Ryan goal but he went to the net and got the rebound. You get goals from there apparently (that was called SARCASM, say it with me now). Both teams gave up a lot of Penalties and TB scored on one late in the first (Nurse penalty though I'm not harping on it). Brown barely played. The only players at the end of the 2nd with LESS time were Gagner, Hamblin (who SCORED a GOAL), and Erne. He is clocked in at 6:35 at the end of the 2nd. Average for a forward at this stage should be 10 minutes especially with his "nominal" linemates being McDavid (14:43) and Kane (11:43). Granted McDavid has been on the PP a LOT (both teams with 13 penalty minutes at the end of the 2nd though several were coincidental, the one I'm a bit worried about is Ceci's Check to the Head Minor at 12:36 of the 2nd (coincidental to a roughing penalty by Cernak). I think it was accidental as both seemed to be reaching for the puck but we'll see.
So first Kucherov goal was a deflection off of Ekholm. Skinner had ZERO chance and can't be blamed. Second was a 2 on 1 again pretty much zero chance on a 5 alarm shot. Can't blame Skinner. Third goal, Bouch a shot off the half wall to NO ONE with Eyssimont being the "shooter" with the puck. Skinner had to play him. Pass across (with 2 Oilers there yet NO ONE on Jeannot) and Jeannot gets the one timer. Again, I can't blame Skinner for this. Bouch (instead of, oh I don't know, passing the puck to another Oiler he throws it to no one off the half wall and the closest player is a TB Lightning so… BOOM). He gets it back to pull the Oilers ahead (briefly) then Tampa gets a tic tac tic cross ice to Stamkos for the 2nd PP goal of the game. Again, not a hope for Skinner so no blame here. THIRTY SECONDS LATER Glendening gets a goal with a Californian, effectively a 2 on 1 on a bad change. This one Skinner MAY be able to get but it's not a sure thing by any stretch. At this point Oilers need one BAD. Tampa can just hold on with 8 minutes to go.
I couldn't really listen to more. I have the Flu and it's close to a miracle I am able to get the stats finished and any comments done.
So, my opinions: First: Faceoffs got "better" (thanks to Leon mostly) but still 25 vs 34, not great. Second, WAY WAY TOO MANY PENALTIES especially when our PK isn't fabulous and their PP is VERY VERY GOOD (and ours currently isn't). The Oilers, apparently, are volume shooters (other than Leon who only had one shot this game). More than HALF of our points came from Depth Scoring (2 from Ryan, 1 from Hamblin). The only OTHER person to score was Bouchard (in a 4 on 4 situation). Of course he coughed up the puck by doing a foolish half wall shot to a rushing TB player(s). Maybe check the lad to see if he can identify the Oilers jersey's or something and doesn't shoot at walls if there are players available. Skinner wasn't actually BAD. There is MAYBE one goal he MAY have gotten. The rest NOT on him. Take care all.
Should trade Draisaitl now before hes worth nothing…just no show from our best players in the world
.783 save percentage…….
Once again. LULL in middle of game
I wonder what Skinners save % is in his last 40 games including the playoffs, literally the only time he makes a grade A save is when the puck is shot directly at him because he's way too slow to make any type of acrobatic saves.
Bouchard is a problem! He keeps making huge mistakes.
Anybody seen Nurse in the 3rd. Period ? if so STOP LAUGHING !!!!!!!!! $9.25 ….. WHOLLY F !
DEREK RYAN!!
Skinner should have been pulled after letting in the first shot offside goal 🥅. The one that went off Ekholm’s skate too? He didn’t even look ready, still need a goalie unfortunately 😭
bring back mike smith
Honestly I see this team ending in complete disaster where the core on this team aren’t good enough leaders and then go elsewhere and win
i wont deny i love draisaitl on this team but gavin your rant was exactly what needs to be said to leon to wake him up idk whats wrong with him i love leon but GO GAVIN GO
You really think Drai is injured or is going through something that’s ailing him? He’s not hurt, he’s just pissed off and hates hockey when Edmonton is in the position they are in. He doesn’t want to play on a losing team that has to fight all year to make a playoff spot. He plays with emotion and he’s not happy in Edmonton right now, that’s why his body language shows that. If Edmonton was on top again this year, he would be happy and smiling and scoring! Sorry to say but Edmonton isn’t what they used to be last season, fans need to come to terms with that and just enjoy when they do win.
McLeod is only 188 pounds at 6’3, what do you expect him to do he’s not big. Most of these guys at that height in the NHL are 200 pounds plus.
4 goals should be enough to win a game…
Kucherov really good at Hockey. Oilers aren't. Lightning fans best in NHL. Go Bolts!
Edmonton has 1 goalie…..Skinner… if he goes down the season is over…
Dear Oilers, When you have 2 of the best Players in the world, and you come up short every year. In the off-season you seek to find pieces to take you to the next level, because you know it just isn't enough, and every player begins to decline. You make these moves to show fans that you are serious, and you are looking to win the Cup. Sincerely, The Los Angeles Kings
They need to do something with nuge. He’s a detriment to the power play. Puck moving fast, crisp passing, then nuge gets it and just slows everything down , allows the other team to swarm so he makes a bad pass or misses the net by a mile . He’s not clean or fast enough right now to be on the #1 pp.
What’s up with McLeod? Is he on the team because he’s the nephew of someone in management or something? He’s fast. End of story. AndFOR THE LOVE OF GOD FOEGLE STOP TRYING TO BE FANCY. YOURE A 3RD STRING FORWARD. GET THE PUCK DEEP AND APPLY PRESSURE. NO MORE “DANGLES” aka easy take-aways that turn into odd man rushes the other way.
If I was Darnell nurse I would be mortified that I’m gouging 9.25 mill from a team with major cap issues and I’m performing the way I am. He should be the hardest working player on the ice at all times. He should have crisp passes and ELITE hockey IQ. But he’s just an average nhl defenseman. It’s sad.
They are both off the steroids