Les analystes continuent de considérer Vancouver comme un grand outsider et affirment que leur PDO est élevé. Vegas propose également des lignes de paris tarifées en conséquence. Regardez à quel point les sabermétries de notre équipe sont similaires à celles de Boston en ce moment et dites-moi en quoi cela a du sens.
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Zestyclose-Way-7768
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Avs are kinda shitty too
I think it’s cause pretty much every team there other than us has built some goodwill. We seemingly came outta nowhere. New coach year after year, new management, same core. Also have to start at least keeping up with teams like Colorado and Vegas when the time comes. I know we played well vs Dallas and NYR but since a few injuries hit we’ve been pretty mid, and it’s not like our top of the lineup got hurt.
As the year goes on I think it’ll change cause I expect Allvin to get a couple more pieces to help the guys survive injuries. Bear comes to mind and ideally another top 6 piece.
And the more I think about the parallels, the more glaringly obvious it seems to me that there is some sort of cultural bias in play that is leading analysts to doubt Vancouver’s chances. I mean, I’d have to say that this is easily the best the team has performed going into the 26-game mark since 2010-11, when we had three future HHOF inductees on the roster.
There’s so many things that Vancouver’s season statistically and intangibly has in common with Boston’s seasons, that it really makes me wonder what the differentiating factors really are:
* Both starting goalies are putting in elite performances. Ullmark is certainly no pushover with a 2.65 GAA and .918 save % in 12 starts. Demko has not been pulled yet in 18 starts, while Ullmark was only pulled once in a weird occasion where he had 18 saves on 20 shots about halfway into the game.
* Both teams’ top scorers have 36 points right now (Pastrnak/Miller).
* Both teams clearly seem to be shuffling around their lineups in similar fashion to each other.
* Both teams have (roughly) three good defensemen. *A*t least one who’s elite (McAvoy), although you could argue a case for the second one being elite, too (Lindholm).
* Lost to the Rangers (7-4) much like how we lost to the Avs (5-2).
I mean, historic season or not last year, we’re talking about a team that didn’t get out of the first round. I understand that the Canucks are 10th in points % right now, but they also haven’t lost more than 2 games in a row and they’ve been unlucky on more than one occasion already. What are the statisticians seeing here?
By the way, that picture of the betting line is for the Presidents’ Trophy, not the Stanley Cup.
All those teams have proven they can play good for an entire season and in some cases win a cup. We’ve played good for 25 games there’s no good will.
Betting odds are not just how likely they think something is to happen, but it also depends on the amount of bets placed on certain teams.
If more people place bets on the Bruins, for example, then their odds will go up (and expected payout down). They do this so no matter what happens, the betting house comes out on top.
I think that’s fair at the moment. Our division has the kings and golden knights, it’ll be tough to get by them in a 1st round series. We’re still 11th which is respectable, I can see why all the other teams are ahead of us
I feel like the overreaction is also on a game by game basis. Put the projections on after the Vegas game and I don’t think people would’ve rated us that highly
We’ve only been good for not even a third of a season, and not even consistent at that.
What this season has shown you that we are a runaway president’s trophy favourite? We’ve had a much better start than last season, but we are absolutely not a contender for best team in the league
I mean almost all those teams have a more proven track record of being good than 23 ish games lol.
Idk how you can complain to be below most of these teams. Need to play well for longer to get up there. It’s not going to be based off of the standings lol
I would agree with these odds if they were for the Stanley Cup.
Seeing as it’s for the Presidents Trophy, we should be better then 30 to 1.
It’s almost like one model isn’t the be all end all.
I am so, so sick of these « Why are we underrated???? » threads. Like everyone else said, we’ve been good for a quarter of a season. Others have been good for years. It’s about consistency.
Being underrated is a good thing for us. Let them not take us seriously.
A rose by any other name or whatever.
We shouldn’t be below the Jets…but I also think we shouldn’t be high. The Canucks stats are a bit overblown because of having a few big blow out scoring games. They’re not actually playing that great right now, fairly average since the initial 10 games
PDO or not, we have to admit the Canucks have not matched up well against the contenders in the West. It’s still early but let’s see how they do in the next games vs Avs, Vegas. They also haven’t played LA yet.
Those numbers show us getting luckier than Boston. They aren’t really the same. Discounting luck, Boston’s stats are slightly better pretty much across the board.
I agree with the analysts, our play over the last 10 games has been average at best
I’m annoyed with many things, but one is definitely those people with bunny ears out for « disrespect ».
We’ve been amongst the worst teams in the league for nearly a decade, and we play well briefly and we are offended we’re not called a Stanley Cup favorite?
I’m thrilled at the way we’re playing. Its unreal that we’re now a team that could compete for the cup if we get hot at the right time. But these kind of things reflect more reality than you’re seeing as a fan of the team.
All the teams in front of us, with exception to maybe the Jets, absolutely should be… When it comes to betting odds.
On one hand, we’re not nearly a contender yet. On the other hand, who cares what they say. Hell, use it to your advantage since your odds are closer to reality?
We have a weak Bottom 6 who don’t provide reliable secondary scoring and our Bottom 4 are mostly bottom pairing D-men who are expected to play to mid-pairing expectations. Our stats are inflated by a few early blowout wins and our PK is garbage.
We need a reliable scoring 3C that can be a threat with Hoglander and Garland and another legit Top 4 defender who can play when our Core 4 (Pettersson, Miller, Hughes, Boeser) hit a slump or get injured.