[Eric Stephens / Athletic $]_John Gibson pourrait susciter des intérêts commerciaux – et s’il bouge, un accord Ducks-Devils aurait-il du sens ?
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Devil_Dane
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[Eric Stephens / Athletic $]_John Gibson pourrait susciter des intérêts commerciaux – et s’il bouge, un accord Ducks-Devils aurait-il du sens ?
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Devil_Dane
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*The full article may or may not be behind a paywall for everyone, but I still don’t want any grief for publishing the entire content here, so here is a five paragraph sample.*
“Neither goalie has been good for the Devils. Vaněček might have an 9-5-0 record but his GAA (3.60) and save percentage (.877) spark concern. His GSAA is below water at minus-7.3 (meaning he’s making seven fewer saves than the average goalie). The Athletic’s Shayna Goldman has watched the 27-year-old often and said, “He fell apart to end last season and just never found it again.” Schmid, who could be Ruff’s choice going forward, is somewhat better (3.27/.891/-4.3) but not great.
The Devils don’t have a clear No. 1. That might not matter so much for a team in a rebuilding phase. It matters when you’re coming off a second-round playoff appearance, have a superstar in Jack Hughes entering his prime years and have established performing veterans like Timo Meier, Dougie Hamilton and Ondrej Palat. Entering Tuesday night’s game at Vancouver, the Devils’ .882 team goaltending save percentage is 30th out of 32 teams. The 3.78 GAA ranks 31st.
Those are pretty good reasons why they’ve got an 12-10-1 record, putting them in a tie for sixth place in the Metro Division. And they’re now without Hamilton, who needed surgery to repair a torn pectoral muscle. Top prospect Simon Nemec, the No. 2 pick in the 2022 draft, has been thrusted into a major role. It is a team that can use a boost.
Would Gibson turn them around? Maybe not by himself, but he’d be a clear upgrade over Schmid and Vaněček. Nemec and Luke Hughes might feel more comfortable playing in front of a goalie who has shown to still be capable of making momentum-changing stops instead of allowing momentum-sapping goals. The Ducks are still in construction mode and their young talent is learning how to deal with the ups and downs that a rebuild brings. A bona fide No. 1 goalie is fine but, as has been shown recently, it doesn’t make them a winning team.
New Jersey is the inverse. It has a roster poised to contend now and the coming seasons. It hasn’t had goaltending worthy of that roster this season. Gibson would provide that while he still has good, if not high-quality years left in him. There is the ancillary benefit of being on the East Coast, where travel is much easier, and Gibson’s family would be closer to their native Pittsburgh area.”
Gibson has been too all over the place over the last 5 years. He would be an interesting risk because we’re a better team than Anaheim, but I wouldnt treat him as a solution and I certainly wouldnt pay Anaheim like he is either.
~~Merrill~~ Smith and a 3rd
He is probably the best choice if we don’t want to give up one of our top young guys. If we want someone like Askarov a top prospect would have to be in play
I think its worth a shot if Fitz does his magic.
No idea how it works but I think best case is Akira gets reps in Utica, VV stays as backup
I really don’t see another opinion in goal besides Gibson. No team currently in a playoff spot would be willing to trade their goalie. All teams out of a playoff spot don’t have any good goalies to trade – the one exception being Anaheim with Gibson. There’s also another Duck that I wouldn’t mind having back on this team 👀…
He makes too much and is already 30. I’d do it for the right price, but Anaheim also should retain some salary. The perfect goalie for us IMO would be 25-27 with some upside but I realize that option may not be available to us.
Gibson and Henrique! Let’s go!!
The cost/reward doesn’t seem to fit here…Gibson has been up and down the last few years and idk if putting him on a team with the defensive issues we have is going to result an an upgrade worth what he costs at 30 years old…I think he’s currently owed more that 6mil per year for the next two or three seasons and I don’t see this as a 3 million dollar per year upgrade over Vanecek
I was super against Gibson in the offseason, but warmed up to the idea. However, it would require A LOT to make work.
We’d need a 30-50% retention.
Need them to take back Vitek.
Need to involve a 1st/2nd realistically to make the trade in the first place
Need a high tier prospect to involve retention for that long. 3 more seasons with that level of retention makes his trade cost very high for the buyer. Asking a team to have a dead cap of 3m for 3 years is rough. Now they are rebuilding, but asking them to handicap themselves for 3 years is rough because they should theoretically be making the jump in the next couple of years.
Need another prospect to make them take Vitek as he’s still contracted for another year and has negative trade value.
So at a minimum it would be a 1st, high tier prospect or NHL player like Casey/Holtz, and then another prospect on top of that like Clarke.
It’s a steep cost that I struggle to believe is actually worth it at all. Now if he did request a trade in the preseason the cost may not be that high. However, the rumors have been that he’s supposedly requested a trade for like the last 3 years and then it’s always denied by the Ducks and his agent. So who even knows.
He makes a lot of money. If the gamble doesn’t work, it isn’t worth it even if the Ducks retain half his salary.
Nope. Gibson hasn’t been good since 18-19 and costs 6.4M for 3 seasons after this one. He’s had a decent start this year, but that’s basically pushing our chips in on Gibson for a the first big chunk of this core’s window.
I would only be in favor of this if Anaheim retains some salary. He’s on too much for too long to be a “hail Mary”.
I love the idea of a Gibson for VV swap. But the only way this realistically works would be for Anaheim to retain 50% (unlikely, given it would be for 3+ years), and we will need to pay an additional tax on that retention (Casey/Mercer/1^(st)).
If the Ducks don’t retain, that means losing one of Mercer, Holtz, or Toffoli come time for raises/extensions.
It really would depend on how hard the Ducks want to tank, but I don’t see them pulling the trigger.
go get him if you want to see the playoffs and beyond round 1
our current goalies are complete cheeks
short answer , no .
He just screams to me as a target for a career redemption if he were traded to a good team.
He’s definitely an above average goaltender in terms of skills and we would only be having until 33 which is not bad in any way lol
Obvs, contract is a bit heavier to take in, but if arrangements can be made, Id be all over this.
He is a massive upgrade. Only time hes had subpar sv% has been on terrible duck teams. He has a .906 with only 5 wins. And he isnt the reason they are losing. Ducks have a 2.7 GFA per game. He has a 2.8 GAA. If he was on the devils theyd be top of the standings this season
Trading for Gibson would be an ultimate desperation move, be extremely risky and cost way too much.
Hard pass. We’re just going to deal with poor goaltending this season. Take the opportunity to get our two young defensive studs some experience and chase the wild card.
It we are seriously taking a shot at the cup, we need to make a move
He’s the best one available
We are in a good spot where we can deal with a not so favorable contract. Ain’t going to kill us
We weren’t willing to pay for Hellybuck, and we shouldn’t be willing to pay for Gibson.
What about Vejmelka? Coyotes will listen to anything and it seems like their no 2 has been doing really well
Wings and Habs have been holding 3 goalies all year to avoid losing them to waivers.
At this point I wouldn’t mind any new goalie coming in to get through this year. Vanecek has just not been it, unfortunately. Maybe he finds his form back, but we can’t really take that risk already behind the 8 ball and needing to win to make up ground.
no thanks. id much prefer to keep away from mediocre journeymen…