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a new power play coach would be great, a new defensive coach, a new goal tending coach and a stronger goalie would also help
if we get a new head coach id like it to be the professor larionov and id love for fedorov to be the special teams coach
Even through the hot streaks, this team has been wildly undisciplined. That issue has to fall on coaching. I think DL has to go. Ideal hire the guy who has won the last 2 KHL championships, Sergei Fedorov. Once you have that in place, bring up the kids and ship off some of these "vets" for whatever you can get.
I don't think Newsy is the problem, he was under Jon Cooper and Cooper in my opinion is one the best coaches in the league as far as his approach. I also think that we as fans need to give them more time. We signed a handful of guys and they may need more time together. I also feel our defense is chaotic, in net and around it. Sadly the only excitement during the games, seems to be when the puck is on Kane's stick in the offensive zone. That is my opinion. Hopefully we extend Kane's contract, if he wants to bite that bullet and stick around.
The signing of Holl and Petry was a disaster waiting to happen. When a 3rd of your D are these guys what do they expect. Bring up some youth. I dont think DL is the right coach but no way does SY fire him afer less than 2 seasons.
I would like us making playoffs. I agree and have been saying myself they need to figure out our top lines and lock in a top line , I think it should be IMO
Debrincat-Larkin-Kane
Perron-Compher-Raymond
Fabbri-Copp-Veleno
Kostin-Rasmussen-Sprong, Extra – Fischer
we need Perron back for powerplay 1 and he needs to be net front area. I want Kostin to play everygame. Our Goaltending situation is scary. Reimer is not the guy. we need Husso back and healthy and Lyon aswell.
Steve Yzerman needs to be on the bench for a couple weeks with the team. Let him watch listen and speak his mind.
How much of this rut has to do with Perron being out? I think a good amount. He’s not the captain, but provides a lot of leadership. Not only in his play, but on the bench and in the locker room. He’s always talking to the other players and motivating them and and keeping spirits up.
don’t think it’s time to panic yet. Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I think the Christmas break will reset us. We’re in a downward spiral and that’s hard to get off without a hard reset especially when you’re missing key players. I really think we’ll get back to playing good hockey and and get hot after the break.
Prompt 1:
My goal is for them to end at least 3rd in the division. Would be happy with just sneaking in through through the wild card as well, but I really want to make it in above the wild card.
Prompt 2: I agree with what you guys said, but would like to add we HAVE TO improve puck management and passes. How many turn over a have we seen lead to a goal against? How many times have we been in an threatunt position in their zone and squandered it because the pass fails to connect? The overall sloppiness needs to improve.
I wanted playoffs for this team. I thought with the players they had, improving on what Lalonde had them trying to do in year 1, and with how close they got, making the playoffs should be the goal.
And right now, I think the biggest hurdle for them to overcome is themselves. We've seen them match up well against great teams. They just can't play the way they need to consistently. Limiting a team like New Jersey to 16 shots on goal is the way they need to play against everyone, and probably the result of whatever system Lalonde is trying to implement. It's just apparently really hard for these guys to make it a habit.
Kids or maybe playoffs? I am in the "play the kids camp" and don't prioritize the team making the playoffs this year. I also believe that Berggren could and should take on Perrons roll or as Billy said Sprongs. Bring up Edvinsson and move on from Petry and Maata. Another issue is that Copp, Compher and Ras are all the same player, good defensively and very limited offensively. Lastly I don't see the culture being built , it could change but right now the effort looks bad from my perspective.
My goal was to be a solidified wildcard team this year. As of right now, I don't know what changes can be made. We're injured, we turn over pucks, and just haven't had a drive since blowing that lead to sanjose. I think the break will do us good tbh, but I think as of right now, we gotta play better in our own end.
My goal doesn’t change… I still expect wildcard. Were gonna go through slumps we just gotta break out of this there’s way too much talent on this roster to put up one goal a game its unacceptable
I think you nailed it, they don’t look like they’re having fun. They look like a beer league team.
One more comment from me, I also think the schedule for the most part since sweden has been brutal. Yes they won games since then. But it's been go go go since as well. Hopefully they can rest and reset during the break.
Also i miss Jonathan Bernier. Wish steve wouldve kept him. He wanted to stay. Also it's atrocious how much nedeljkovic got shit on last year…he came back from the ahl and played well. Now he's been pretty solid for Pittsburgh. Agreed…it's not all the goalies fault.
Petry needs to go he looks like he doesn’t care I understand they are trying to revamp chariot but petry is a defensive liability
Goal: More overall points than last year and at least a few points out of a wild card spot.
Honestly, I'm at a loss on how to fix this and can only default to the overall defensive game. I don't know what happened to the production other than the loss of players at the same time throwing everything off.
In my opinion it has to be Kane coming in kinda threw everything off. Now sure if it’s that he’s not 100% yes but sure doesn’t seem to be a big impact as of yet. Maybe still a bit rusty still. Maybe putting him on the third line to start would be the best way to go until he’s feeling it again. Breaking up Larkin and DeBrincat was a bad choice it seems.
Please stop complaining about how hard people are on the goalies and how they ignore the defense. Husso deserves the shade. We have an arguably better team than last year, yet his play is equal to what Ned provided and you all were more than happy to send him down and trade him. If you weren't bias in favor of Husso, he would be being treated the same as Ned was.
Merton is just as much a part of this team as anyone. He lives in the yellow! He leads by examp!e same as Larkin . He's just as important. And Larkin isn't 100℅, he's hesatint, getting ko,ed is scary! Kane is perfect and by no means an issue!
Here's my defensive lineup:
Walman – Seider
Maata – Gostisbehere
Edvinsson – Holl
Scratch Chiarot & Petry
Maata played 2nd pair last year with hronek and did fine.
Once Lyon comes back carry 2 goalies and deal Reimer so you can scratch 2 D.
They also need to let these guys go!, They seem to me more worried about what there doing wrong, than what there doing right! Lalondes defence first is just not working.
Rod Brinda"Amour said during the 12/14/23 broadcast that they are aware of the Wings tendencies. That seems to suggest there's a pattern that opponents are capitalizing on to neutralize the Wings efforts on both ends of the ice.
The wings main problem is their defensive structure. For two years now, all the wings do is try to dump it up the boards. Opposing teams know this, jamb the boards, create turnovers and scoring opportunities against us. We don’t have any clean exits from our defensive zone. To me that falls on coaching. Also, I do think what the coach says to the media is important. Newsy is always stating the team is not good enough when they win and states we did good things when they lose. To me that’s mixed messaging. Yeah line combinations are an issue. To have Copp center Kane and Debrincat?. It is ridiculous IMO
One thing is Petry needs to go, a turnover machine. Also, this team is soft from top to bottom. Yzerman needs fewer Euro-cupcakes and some guys who won’t be chased off the ice.
Team culture needs to be established this year. Set the standard. Results will come later.
We gotta sell at the deadline regardless of where we are. Can’t let Perron, matta, ghost, sprong go for nothing. The prospect pool isn’t deep enough.
Edvinson is ready but the rest are 1-2 years away. Collect picks to sell when the time is right
Lalonde system doesn’t seem to fit the players. This isn’t 19-20 Tampa roster.
Also when do we call attention to larkins ability to lead. He’s the only common denominator left…
Datsyuk played on the 3/4th line in his rookie year… don’t see why that’s a problem
Q1: Playoffs
Q2: Passing / Structure.
The wings better turn it around. I don’t think I can handle the sens ending the wings season 2 years in a row.
#1 to be competitive no long losing streaks just be competitive
#2 all little more toughness don't let teams walk all over us also believe might help to tighten up on the forchecking and backchecking