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The hard thing that we all need to come to grips with and need to realize is that this team isn’t winning another cup or going on any deep playoff runs again while Sid is here…And it’s sad because it’s not in any part because of Crosby himself. They aren’t going to do anything again until they rebuild/reload this team and get younger faster and hungrier. Which I know is pretty much impossible/improbable while Sid is still here. That’s why I would be getting rid of what I could now for assets and younger talent and hope that maybe we get super lucky on a couple players and maybe could compete again before Sid retires but that’s highly unlikely.
Sully needs to be accountable for holding the players accountable. Until that happens we will see these short comings. The coach is comfortable. The players are comfortable. Some one needs to step up and be the voice that steers this ship in the right direction. They dont even coach the power play and look how well thats going for the team.
The last two games have changed my outlook and yes something needs to happen. Move Jake to the second line and give Rust back to Sid and hope Jake and Sid can both stay hot and we have two scoring lines.
Malkin has been terrible. What can they do with him? I know he has a no movement clause. Chris
I really think a coaching change is necessary at this point. They need a new voice,a new direction. It's the same ol song & dance.If they blew up the team & rebuilt is Sully going to be hear for that? Nope!
I just don't believe Sullivan is the answer going forward…
Fire an assistant coach, especially the one in charge of the powerplay. Simple and effective attention grabber.
Why aren’t we talking about firing Reirden more? He’s presided over a 31st ranked power play and a defense that has bad lapses. But honestly if the Pens lose both of the next 2 games, I think it’s time to punt on this year, let go of a coach, and yes listen to offers on Guentzel. Whats the point of having him if you aren’t going to make the playoffs?
It reminds me of the Steelers situation. They think they are better than they are. They know the problems but don’t acknowledge them. They stay relevant enough to miss out on a great draft choice and are stuck in the middle. Team needs to start thinking about the future. Top ten draft picks are the future at this point in my opinion. It’s funny how the only 2 guys who outperform everyone are the guys who aren’t signed to long term deals (87&59) that should be main priority. Cut dead weight Ans build around them. So many bad contracts on this team it’s unreal.
Putting the puck into their own empty net seems to have sent our viewership away
Well said – there is no shortcut
Hahaha! Swallow some pride and just play better? lol That's the fix? If that was going to ever happen on a consistent basis, it would have happened by now. I think they have a better chance of getting Malkin to stand in front of the net on PP's, or trading Carter for Ovechkin than they do in climbing inside these player heads and hearts and doing a character and mindset transplant.
If what you are essentially saying is there is no fix Dubas or Sullivan can offer, and this is as good as it gets, then you have to be conscience enough to realize that after this season, they'll have to start gutting the team of pieces that aren't getting them the results needed to win a cup with Crosby, have no benefit to it's future, and start building towards it. Of course they'll have to do it in a way that won't make Sid simply quit on the team now and after his contract expires to finish it career somewhere else, but aside from that, there's no reason to keep pushing this stone up the hill with a big figurative fork in their backs. They're done.
At this point, I’d try as many WBS pens as possible. Need to try some different guys out. Nylander leads the WBS in points bring him back
You're left with some washed-up players holding the entire team hostage.
Well your right about jake but chances are he will sign elswhere in the o ff season so basically don't trade him now because maybe we will make the playoffs
Time to trade Carter to the Capitals for a 1st. Risky but it’ll shake up the locker room.
The coach keeps saying "Not good enough, we need to do this better, we need to stop doing this and that." But nothing changes.
I think this is a Dubus problem. How many of his acquisitions have worked out great? The team player composition is just wrong, and it's been wrong for years now. Dubus acquired the kinds of players the Pens already had, rather than the kinds of players they actually need..
Nah they need to start fresh with a new coaching staff. Sullivan the last 4-5 years will never hold any of the stars accountable and will never sit them if they make game altering mistakes. Wake up the team with a coaching change, trade Jake for a similar deal for PLD that brings in roster players and prospects/picks, basically a rebuild on the fly that gives us a roster player or two. Gives us a fresh start and a roster shake up to set us up for the rest of the season and the next few seasons
why is HCMS so untouchable?
Yes. Change your expectations and accept they are old. Haha
Fix the PP.
Tell the team they have all the pieces to win… because they do.
Thanks DK. Just me, but I think they need two good defensemen that have speed and good endurance. Third period comes around and the win walks out the door. Go to W.B. bring in some good players to challenge the starters. How is Braden Yager coming along DK ? Just wanting to know. Great show DK
Fire Todd Rierden. Been saying that since about November.
Change the power play coach and lines. Anything to not be 31st.
Ned would give you a small return because of the low cap hit and some team needing a backup at the time.
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Dubas turned over half the roster. Karlsson looks uncharacteristically mediocre. Smith looks uncharacteristically mediocre (when he's healthy). Acciari has turned into a pacifist. The powerplay would be outclassed by a peewee dek hockey team at a YMCA. Yet, Sullivan is God's gift to hockey.
I don't know that a coaching change would cure all that ails the Pens. But for that to be completely off the table is lunacy. I wish I had a job where I could get these kind of results, and still have people worship the ground I walked on.
I fear that, at this point, even if someone created hybrid of Scotty Bowman and Herb Brooks in a lab and hired it to coach the Penguins nobody on the team would listen to him.
With their top end collective hockey talent and experience you'd think it would be easy for them to adjust. But maybe they are like thoroughbreds or a breed of dog that you can only slightly alter what they instinctually can do. What got them to this position in their careers is about all they can do.
I've watched almost all the Penguins games this year and I haven't seen the stats but it looks to me that Malkin turns the puck over as much or more than anyone. Maybe put him on the third line to shake things up. If the Pens miss the playoffs and maybe even if they do make it, I think Malkin might have to go next year, or trade him now. And Crosby needs to shoot more especially on the power play.
Coaches (es).