https://nypost.com/2024/02/21/sports/islanders-focused-on-fixing-costly-late-game-issues-for-playoff-push/ pour moi, il me semble que ce sous-marin est divisé en deux camps avec quelques chevauchements. Manque de talent contre mauvais coaching/gestion et certaines personnes qui, avant Roy, pensent que c’est un combo des 2. Cet article avance l’argument intéressant selon lequel le talent est là avec les équipes actuelles en lice pour la coupe (c’est-à-dire que le temps sans avance dans les matchs est très bas comme parmi les meilleures équipes), les sauvegardes s’effondrent en fin de match (évidemment, cela change tout le jeu). Intéressé de voir si quelqu’un est d’accord avec cela sur la base de cette statistique. La question est la suivante : sur la base de cette statistique, les Îles, à votre avis, ont-elles réellement le talent pour remporter une coupe par rapport à l’effectif actuel ?
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There’s nothing like playoff hockey, and I wanna watch the isles. Idgaf how many playoff games they play, I just wanna watch.
I’m just gona say this. On the other side of the river you have players of a sports team that want to run the show and play GM. Management has no idea how to tell the young kids to know their roles and shut their mouths.
Say what you will about Lou, there’s no drama or turmoil in Islander country aside from underperforming, overpaid stars. Take what this year is with a grain of salt. For all the old fans, we’ve seen the darkness. It could be way way worse.
The team is and has been underperforming. They have been their own worst enemy all season.
I think a lot of us feel that unforced errors and consistent effort (along with a perplexingly abysmal PK) are the biggest problems which should be fixable.
We all hoped the coach change and allstar brake would be the hard reset they seemed to so desperately need. Unfortunately the same inability to finish games and play consistently is there.
I want to believe they can turn the corner…and I think they can (they have the talent), but time is running out and I now think it’s more likely they won’t be able to do it – there is just something off they cannot shake.
They were never going to be a real cup contender but they should be in the pkayoffs – and still could – but the constant pissing away of points and opportunities is killing them and unless they get it together by like next week it’s likely over.
The Isles can hang with the big guns…for a game. The inconsistency is the issue, and as we can see it’s just as much on the players as it is on the staff. I love them, but this roster ain’t it. Trotz got the best of them and that’s that.
The Post is such a Rags rag I have zero time for whatever shit they’re peddling. Finding a positive Isles article is like finding a gold bar in a haystack. Even this one is centered around how the Isles flounder in the 3rd period. F the Post.
That is all. Off my soapbox. Carry on. As you were.
Management and ownership are not going to pull the plug and rebuild. We have lots and lots of talent without consistency. We have some pieces to the puzzle and we should try with the puzzle pieces we have rather than hope and pray that a potential fire sale will turn things around in the long run. It is more likely we can figure something out with tweaks compared to the rebuild. The only thing worse than thing than he a bubble playoff team is a team like the Sens and Sabres who were supposed to take the league by storm three years ago
We have a very elite goalie currently as well as an elite forward, both of whom are over 25. If we get lucky in draft we can get an Ilya or Barzal, so why don’t we run with the actual player we have rather than a gamble on a potential player
The Islanders are a 23 win team.
Anyone saying they’re just as good as any contender are delusional fanboys. These daily threads are just silly. They’re 21st in GF and 22nd in GA. Just about the only thing this team does well is take penalties.
It’s OK to acknowledge that your favorite team isn’t very good. That doesn’t make you less of a fan.
More than a new coach, GM, or players, what this team needs is a top-tier sports psychologist. Dropping leads has become a pattern and it’s 100% mental. They have the talent to outplay teams for 90% of most games, the talent doesn’t suddenly disappear at the end of 3rd periods
I believe this roster has at least as much if not more talent than the teams that went to the Eastern Conference Finals.
The problem is that it looks like Barry Trotz had a ridiculous WAR (wins above replacement) as a coach. He probably was maybe a +5 (5 wins above an average coach) and Lane was probably a -3 (3 wins below replacement). The other problems are:
1. IMHO Patrick Roy is not the coach to fix these Islanders. Of course time will tell, but so far he’s 4-7? We also don’t have a lot of data with him as an NHL head coach to tell if he’ll be a Top 10 NHL coach, but that is unlikely.
2. The Trotz system and discipline is fading over time. My hunch is these blown leads and awful penalty kills are due to the players remembering less and less of his system. They get a lead (probably more often than when Trotz was coach) but don’t know how to hold it. It looks to me like an awful version of chip and chase. 5×5 with a lead they are too happy to clear the puck while turning possession over, and on the penalty kill they can never seem to clear the puck (and I can’t explain why)
3. The team will slowly be getting worse, not better, over time. It’s an old team with no young prospects on the way. Nelson, Palmieri, Horvat, Lee, Pagaeu, Clutterbuck, Martin, Engvall, Mayfield and Pelech are not going to get better year over year.
4. Even trading first round picks for good players isn’t working. We added Horvat and are worse, no fault of his.
I think, in today’s NHL, any Top 12 team can win the cup with luck and a hot streak. We came very close twice. But I don’t think we are a top 12 team, our playoff hopes are slim for this year and probably will be slightly worse for next year.