[Fox] On a demandé à Brendan Shanahan s’il croyait toujours que le noyau des Maple Leafs pouvait gagner. Sa longue réponse ne comportait pas le mot « oui ».
[Fox] On a demandé à Brendan Shanahan s’il croyait toujours que le noyau des Maple Leafs pouvait gagner. Sa longue réponse ne comportait pas le mot « oui ».
Everyone seems to be expecting Shanahan to be executed on live television. If they’re actually breaking things up…I mean….isn’t that what we’ve been BEGGING for all this time?
theguyishere16
His answer sounded a hell of a lot more like « were seeing what else is out there » imo
ConnectOccasion7033
That press conference was absolutely nonsense. Didn’t answer any difficult questions and said the Core 5 expenditure is irrelevant.
Sounded like Sammy is gone, and they will look at trading a big earner, but that’s all.
Aware-Original8825
Without saying it, he pretty much said no.
mikesully374826
Sounded to me like they plan on exploring trades of a member of the core, but keep in mind this is not the first summer they will explore trades for a member of the core.
After the 2021 season they explored trades and didn’t find any they liked, unless the Karlsson deal that was blocked *was* a trade that Dubas liked that involved a member of the core.
TactileOstrich
Making a big move like that would make bringing Shanahan back excusable. After all, isn’t that part of the reason we’d want someone else brought in? Presuming he’s changed his tune on the philosophy of how the team is built for playoffs.
NewTdotleafs
He just bs’d his way around the question, and had the audacity to bring up patience. Are you fucking kidding me? 6 of 8 years wasted in the Matthews era (First two years i count as development and not actual playoff contenders). 1 series win. Year after year of embarrassing losses such as the Zamboni driver, 3-2 series lead chokes, multiple game 7 losses to Boston (THIS YEAR THEY DIDN’T EVEN HAVE BERGERON, KREJCI OR CHARA, WE LOST TO THE BOSTON “COYLE 1C” BRUINS) We’re talking about patience?!
hymensmasher99
The only positive coming out of shanahan. Hope he follows through on some major change
he could’ve easily just said yes, and the fact that he mentioned the trade deadline as the time to do things seems to allude to the core contracts that are expiring at that time.
Accomplished_Low148
The irony of this whole thing was that Shanny and Treliving effectively said what Dubas hinted at last year, that change was needed.
Beyond wasting a year by not winning in the playoffs, a year was wasted to reach the same conclusion that was reached by Dubas last year.
I’m not trying to make this a pro-Dubas post, just showing that waiting a year and changing the GM to do something that should’ve been done last year is terrible mismanagement
Accomplished_Low148
I was a little surprised by how passive Keith Pelley is and how much he seems to like what’s already in place with Shannahan and Treliving.
Beyond his pre drafted bullshit of ensuring unity within the entire organization his message was effectively I’m just gonna let these guys do their thing because they seem to know what to do lol
Drew_You_To_91
The difference in The tone of voice between Brad and Shanny spoke volumes to me for some reason. Brad sounded like a guy who was fired up to see what he can do to make this team better and shanny sounded like a guy who was defeated and out of ideas.
northdancer
How does Shanahan keep his job. Please make it make sense
10thousand34
I believe Matthews will win us a cup, but it won’t include Mitch Marner
91Caleb
His follow up to what’s different this time was nothing though .. so take it all with a grain of salt
ghdtyjksbjt
The press conference was embarrassing
Cptleaf93
Took him a whole year to figure out what we’ve been saying since the Montreal loss
OldPollution7225
Shanny loves to invoke the Red Wings every chance he gets. He should know that he was the final piece of what for years was an unsolvable puzzle. The only true “core” of that Red Wings team was Steve Yzerman; the players surrounding him were radically different from 87 when they first made the playoffs to 97 when they won the Cup. Matthews should be the only untouchable player on this team.
_caponius
Don’t understand how Marner got that NMC. You’d think at least Dubas could’ve stood his ground in some part of that deal.
LGK420
Fuckin change it, it’s been almost a decade of the same shit were not gonna win anything but regular season games with these gutless overplayed losers.
dynozombie
Funny how he fired someone for coming to that conclusion a year ago
resentfulvirgin
Trading a superstar just to trade him cuz the fans and management of this team and the media covering them are fucking morons. Again. They’re never gonna win shit in my lifetime.
Hoardzunit
That means no.
Apprehensive_Ad_4359
I love how the Leafs nation continues to use the word core. In sports core refers to a long time sub group of players within a winning organization. You know a core group of players that has repeatedly won while utilizing a changing group of supplemental players.
All the Leafs have is a core of players that suck up payroll.
If you look at true championship organizations, think Yankees or Patriots, the common thread is there is no loyalty to player and or contract. You produce or you’re out, and if this means eating contract or letting go of fan favorites then so be it because the business is to win.
chizzy1212
I think marner will be traded this summer. If you’re a player and the GM approaches you telling you that they don’t want you to play for the team anymore are you going to put your foot down and say “NO IM STAYING!!” . Brad will work with marner and make a deal to a team he wants to go to. That’s the value of a NMC
AdeoAdversary
What a loser….if any of us had presided over the constant failures in our jobs that Shanahan has we’d be fired two times over.
Guy should be cleaning zambonis for the rest of his career at this point.
Current-Own
Totally disappointed. Today, imho, just confirms that Keefe was used as a scapegoat. They knew the majority of fans would buy into the bag of shit they handed out today. Come September they’ll be claiming that they couldn’t get fair value for our god and saviour Mitchy Woo Marner. Slow poke Tavares will be our 2nd line centre again. And our new coach will certainly let us all know that Sheldon Keefe was indeed a very good coach. He couldn’t win in the playoffs but our new coach won’t even get us into the playoffs. Mark my words.
Dubsified
That’s because Brad has bigger balls than him.
james-HIMself
Why do I trust Treliving more than Shanahan who has been here 9 years
Exact-Appointment510
Hard to get them to waive their NMC after saying Yes.
Poiuyt5555
If Tre can get a similar haul to the Tkachuk trade then I’m all for moving Marner. We need a more balanced roster.
Fqwahgads
Build this team around Matthews and Nylander, trim the fat and sign some reliable defenders with a goalie. It took 10 years for the Capitals to get it right with Ovechkin and Backstrom but they took that team, with all its heartbreaking playoff exits, and won the cup. It took time but I think Treliving can get us there.
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Everyone seems to be expecting Shanahan to be executed on live television. If they’re actually breaking things up…I mean….isn’t that what we’ve been BEGGING for all this time?
His answer sounded a hell of a lot more like « were seeing what else is out there » imo
That press conference was absolutely nonsense. Didn’t answer any difficult questions and said the Core 5 expenditure is irrelevant.
Sounded like Sammy is gone, and they will look at trading a big earner, but that’s all.
Without saying it, he pretty much said no.
Sounded to me like they plan on exploring trades of a member of the core, but keep in mind this is not the first summer they will explore trades for a member of the core.
After the 2021 season they explored trades and didn’t find any they liked, unless the Karlsson deal that was blocked *was* a trade that Dubas liked that involved a member of the core.
Making a big move like that would make bringing Shanahan back excusable. After all, isn’t that part of the reason we’d want someone else brought in? Presuming he’s changed his tune on the philosophy of how the team is built for playoffs.
He just bs’d his way around the question, and had the audacity to bring up patience. Are you fucking kidding me? 6 of 8 years wasted in the Matthews era (First two years i count as development and not actual playoff contenders). 1 series win. Year after year of embarrassing losses such as the Zamboni driver, 3-2 series lead chokes, multiple game 7 losses to Boston (THIS YEAR THEY DIDN’T EVEN HAVE BERGERON, KREJCI OR CHARA, WE LOST TO THE BOSTON “COYLE 1C” BRUINS) We’re talking about patience?!
The only positive coming out of shanahan. Hope he follows through on some major change
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he could’ve easily just said yes, and the fact that he mentioned the trade deadline as the time to do things seems to allude to the core contracts that are expiring at that time.
The irony of this whole thing was that Shanny and Treliving effectively said what Dubas hinted at last year, that change was needed.
Beyond wasting a year by not winning in the playoffs, a year was wasted to reach the same conclusion that was reached by Dubas last year.
I’m not trying to make this a pro-Dubas post, just showing that waiting a year and changing the GM to do something that should’ve been done last year is terrible mismanagement
I was a little surprised by how passive Keith Pelley is and how much he seems to like what’s already in place with Shannahan and Treliving.
Beyond his pre drafted bullshit of ensuring unity within the entire organization his message was effectively I’m just gonna let these guys do their thing because they seem to know what to do lol
The difference in The tone of voice between Brad and Shanny spoke volumes to me for some reason. Brad sounded like a guy who was fired up to see what he can do to make this team better and shanny sounded like a guy who was defeated and out of ideas.
How does Shanahan keep his job. Please make it make sense
I believe Matthews will win us a cup, but it won’t include Mitch Marner
His follow up to what’s different this time was nothing though .. so take it all with a grain of salt
The press conference was embarrassing
Took him a whole year to figure out what we’ve been saying since the Montreal loss
Shanny loves to invoke the Red Wings every chance he gets. He should know that he was the final piece of what for years was an unsolvable puzzle. The only true “core” of that Red Wings team was Steve Yzerman; the players surrounding him were radically different from 87 when they first made the playoffs to 97 when they won the Cup. Matthews should be the only untouchable player on this team.
Don’t understand how Marner got that NMC. You’d think at least Dubas could’ve stood his ground in some part of that deal.
Fuckin change it, it’s been almost a decade of the same shit were not gonna win anything but regular season games with these gutless overplayed losers.
Funny how he fired someone for coming to that conclusion a year ago
Trading a superstar just to trade him cuz the fans and management of this team and the media covering them are fucking morons. Again. They’re never gonna win shit in my lifetime.
That means no.
I love how the Leafs nation continues to use the word core. In sports core refers to a long time sub group of players within a winning organization. You know a core group of players that has repeatedly won while utilizing a changing group of supplemental players.
All the Leafs have is a core of players that suck up payroll.
If you look at true championship organizations, think Yankees or Patriots, the common thread is there is no loyalty to player and or contract. You produce or you’re out, and if this means eating contract or letting go of fan favorites then so be it because the business is to win.
I think marner will be traded this summer. If you’re a player and the GM approaches you telling you that they don’t want you to play for the team anymore are you going to put your foot down and say “NO IM STAYING!!” . Brad will work with marner and make a deal to a team he wants to go to. That’s the value of a NMC
What a loser….if any of us had presided over the constant failures in our jobs that Shanahan has we’d be fired two times over.
Guy should be cleaning zambonis for the rest of his career at this point.
Totally disappointed. Today, imho, just confirms that Keefe was used as a scapegoat. They knew the majority of fans would buy into the bag of shit they handed out today. Come September they’ll be claiming that they couldn’t get fair value for our god and saviour Mitchy Woo Marner. Slow poke Tavares will be our 2nd line centre again. And our new coach will certainly let us all know that Sheldon Keefe was indeed a very good coach. He couldn’t win in the playoffs but our new coach won’t even get us into the playoffs. Mark my words.
That’s because Brad has bigger balls than him.
Why do I trust Treliving more than Shanahan who has been here 9 years
Hard to get them to waive their NMC after saying Yes.
If Tre can get a similar haul to the Tkachuk trade then I’m all for moving Marner. We need a more balanced roster.
Build this team around Matthews and Nylander, trim the fat and sign some reliable defenders with a goalie. It took 10 years for the Capitals to get it right with Ovechkin and Backstrom but they took that team, with all its heartbreaking playoff exits, and won the cup. It took time but I think Treliving can get us there.
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