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Mitchell marner … do it!
Maybe walman had a lingering injury or Vrana like issues.
It’s for the 14th overall pick
My fear is this cap space is used on another Compher/Copp player
Couldn't even get a 1st for Walman when he has 2 years left at 3.4 and plays top pair
Is San Jose working on a deal that will come to Detroit in that trade
Future considerations = San Jose eating some TBD cap for a future pickup?
Also, with $29mil free cap space, $14-16mil slated for Seider and Raymond only leaves $13-15mil to fill your remaining 8 roster spots (ave of $1.5-2mil per). Not enough left to sign a big name player. Like it or not Cap space is a problem for the Red Wings at this point. They are defense heavy considering both Johansson and Edvinsson need to be on the roster. Walman may have been the only moveable defenseman to clear some cap space. The future considerations could actually be huge as San Jose has ample camp space.
I've always defended Yzerman, giving him the benefit of the doubt and trusting his vision. But, even if he wanted to get Walman's contract off the books, how could he not have acquired a draft pick for him instead of getting rid of one? I'm still holding out hope there's something about the "future considerations" that may help redeem this move. If not, then I can't defend Yzerman, my hockey hero, and this was an idiotic move.
Marner and SJ takes on some salary?
Imagine if Kanes camp told Steve: "you sign Guentzal, and I will resign for 2×3 AAV."
Also on the Zetterberg note, when Inwas watching the 2008 Stanley Cup finals and watched the "Con Smythe Shift" on TV live and thought that night that he was an obvious hall of famer. Him and Datsyuk are both super deserving. They were incredible
Yzerman is a crap gm
Yzerman gives Kostin, Walman and a 2nd to SJS for absolutely nothing? Walman is the only decent player he has brought in during this "Rebuild".
What a joke, so pissed, maybe don't give Copp 5.8, Chiarot 4.7 or Holl 3.4? Yzerman hasn't used cap space at all to retain for pick, only Staal. What kind or rebuild is this? TANK FOR A TOP 3 PICK !@#$ THIS STUPID REBUILD
What if Seiders camp wouldn’t do a bridge deal and that forces Yzerman to put up $3-4m more than he could realistically do right now so he had to dump Walman. And he chose Walman, Seiders best bud, to send a message to his agent
I’m so tired of the word “prospects”. I want bonafide talent, not what COULD be talent. it’s very tiring. I liked Walman, he was with Seider when I met both of them at Meijer. That being said, if he’s going for a possible big move in the future, I’m okay with it.
Or Walmans Fortnite addiction catching up to him
The more I think it I think there is something going on with Walman. I don't think this was just a salary cap dump. Something is going with Walman that we don't know about.
Would be WILD, but Patrik Laine can't be traded until he gets out of treatment, so maybe the future considerations are part of that deal somehow?
Yzwrplan is a joke we need a new gm
It was either a cash dump or there could be a exchange of pick 15 and pick 14 between the two teams
What about all the rumors that came out about him And larkin not getting along in the dressing room There was something that came out about wallman being insensitive when larkin and his wife lost the baby. I don't know if any of it's true but it makes sense.If this is the outcome
So we have nothing to worry about as Red Wings by these moves then?🤔
Is the cap dump was needed out him on fucking waivers somebody would have picked him up
There was a reason Walman wasn't playing enough down the stretch. Yzerman liked Walman, something went wrong with that love affair or Stevie has a cunning plan that we don't know about yet. Relax boys! There has to more to this story. Something is coming!
If the Sharks wanted to trade down maybe the Red Wings wanted to make sure nobody jumped in front of them for their player. And the trade isn't finalized until the Sharks see if someone drops unexpectedly.
All i know is Stevie has a plan, HOWEVER he better be working on something good because Red Wings fans are getting antsy with these moves and the time is NOOWWW to push forward!.. we've been sooo damn patient..
Pretty obvious Walman has some demons in his life. This feels more like a Vrana situation.
I wonder what any other future considerations deals look likr recently. That nay give a sense of understanding to what may cause the NHL to grant permission for the deal.
Hank should’ve got in along with Pav.
Think it through kids. If the Sharks would only take Walman with an adder then there’s an issue with Walman we know nothing about. Yzerman is stingy, he’d never give up assets for nothing.
Dumb founded by this. Big Walman fan. I quit trusting the Yzerplan this past off season.
The trade obviously had to happen. Seider and Raymond need deals, and that could eat a ton of cap space. Nobody wanted to give away any cap space, so Steve did the deal that would cost the team the smallest amount of value to free up the needed space to maybe make moves on July 1st. You talk about 30 million, but what is Seider and Raymond going to cost if they sign long term….. That could be close to 20 million. The cap is going up, and everyone knows it. The agents are pushing for big bucks coming out of these young stars elcs. Seider could be 8x 9.5m, and Raymond could be 8 x 9m, or it could be more. Guys that have done less in the NHL have gotten 7.5 – 8 million in the last few years. With the cap going up, don't be surprised if they get Matthews Marner money coming out of their elcs.
what if this trade includes a trade swap for San Jose's 2nd pick in the first round or control of that pick for Detroit's 1st rounder? There is no way Yzerman gave up Jake Walman and his decent contract and had to give away a 2nd round pick to do it. Walman alone is a tradable asset. There has to be something else in play here.
My thoughts on the matter. Really weird trade but it comes with a caveat. We Sign patty Kane prior to July 1st. The condition from SJ is if Stevie's guys there at 14 and he picks up his phone SJ swaps with us 14-15. Steep price for some flex on the blue line to accommodate Johansson and Simon, but if we get Kaner and Stevie gets his pick with some bonus insurance I'm all for it. LGRW
I think it's very likely that Yzerman is targeting a high value player via trade. Maybe the SJ "future considerations" is them retaining salary on said player?
I bet SJ and Nashville are working on a trade and this helps balance it out. (Yzerman clearly “won” the Nashville trade, but clearly “lost” the SJ trade? 🤔) I also wouldn’t be surprised if Yzerman is going after a D—maybe Trouba? 😂—and this is opens the door for that.
I would still watch hockey, but the league would forever be a joke to me if Datsyuk wasn't a first ballot hall of famer. You can clearly see his influence on the league today. Many of the great players we have now have cited him as a player they watched closely.
I honestly have no idea wtf Yzerman is thinking, I don’t like any of the moves he’s made so far this offseason. Unless a big trade is made soon that is.
If Yzerman gets the 14th pick, he has a better chance to get his guy before the team with the 15th pick gets a chance to draft that guy. … … oh, wait, just a minute …🤪
I feel like this trade is a place holder, deposit, for moving up on draft night… there has to be more than nothing here
The only reason I can think of that Stevie Y would make that Walman trade is because he’s going all in on Guentzel and might have to have a bidding war with the LA Kings. Since dealing PLD to the Caps, the Kings have an additional 3 million in cap space, which sounds like a really close number to Jake Walkman’s salary
Future considerations has to be San Jose eating salary on a future deal wings make otherwise this makes absolutely zero sense and an utter fail by yzerman