Les Devils ont acquis F Paul Cotter et Vegas Third en 2025 pour Alexander Holtz et Akira Schmid
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septimus29
@Devils du New Jersey
Les Devils ont acquis F Paul Cotter et Vegas Third en 2025 pour Alexander Holtz et Akira Schmid
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septimus29
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this must be a joke
They must really think nothing of Alexander Holtz.
i dont give a fuck what anyone says this might be the dumbest fucking trade in the history of the team
Holtz had 28 points last season and Cotter had 25. What a fucking desperate trade for grit wow
WHO?
who the fuck is paul cotter
Guess we know that it wasn’t just Lindy that hated Holtz
Mr. Fitzgerald, I don’t feel so good.
Feels like we gave up too much here
Horrifying
Bad
Terrible
Immediate reaction is that’s not a great return for Holtz.. damn
What the fuck? This is a head scratcher. Their value combined can’t be that low that they are worth less playing for Utica?
This is a horrific trade. Absolutely horrific.
Who the fuck is Paul Cotter? We fuck over Holtz all last season and throw him away for what? What the fuck is this trade?
Bah gawd it’s Lindy Ruff from the top rope!
Why are we acting like holtz has any value? Both the gm and coach don’t like him and I guarantee other gms don’t value him highly either. I’ll gladly take cotter being a solid 3C over Holtz being played in the bottom 6 getting 8 minutes a night
Devils really don’t value holtz apparently. Schmid I was not high on either he looks terribly slow, but I think this might be giving up on holtz too soon but at least we get a huge guy who can play centre.
Wow
This is the first Fitz move I’ve really HATED off the bat. This wasn’t a good trade even without Schmid thrown in..
Finally we have a thread where we find out the actual value the rest of the league had for Holtz wasn’t what Devils fans thought it would be.
Maybe Holtz turns into what we dreamed Holtz will be, maybe he doesn’t.
Even if he doesn’t this trade is *terrible*. If you tried to make this trade in a video game the game would disallow it for being too lopsided.
Why is everyone freaking out. Holtz had next to no value. He didn’t make the Sweden team, he was passed over by zetterlund and muk in the trade deal. Numerous coaches put him in the dog house. Maybe the player just isn’t that good. Paul cotter is a solid bottom 6 forward and we desperately need a better bottom 6
Don’t like the trade but Cotter will be a good McLeod replacement.
Bad trade
Is this our mcleod substitute?
Not that I love this trade, but the reality is that Fitz is clearly working the phones with multiple teams and several trades having now gone down. Yet this is the best that Holtz could yield in trade – tough pill to swallow, but apparently other teams aren’t that keen on him.
I recall a reporter mentioning that the Flames getting Bahl instead of Holtz may have been by their choice too…
To start Holtz was one of my favorite guys on the team. However it was pretty clear to me that our front office didn’t see him as a top 6 guy and we decided to get a player who fits the physical style we want to play in the bottom 6. Also think schmiids agent made it clear that he didn’t want to resign with us so at least we get something in return. The fanboy in me absolutely hates this trade but going through it in my head I can see the vision that Fitz has with this trade. Bye Holtzy and Schmido we will definitely miss them!
This just means we are gonna have to sign some big gun too 6 forward
I wish my enemies hated me as much as the Devils hated Holtz
Why?
Why trade Schmid at his lowest value. At least maybe he could’ve been called up again, look good and trade him to idk the leafs for a 2nd or 3rd
Are we all just ignoring the face that Holtz was also cut by Sweden in this year’s IIHF in favor for three non-NHLers? Who do you think knows more, a bunch of armchair GMs where a large portion have probably never even played a game of hockey that isn’t on a gaming console or dozens of professional managers across multiple leagues and offices? Stop acting like this was a McDavid for Yakupov trade
At face value this looks bad. If you understand hockey, you cannot win a cup with holtz in the bottom six. Our window is now open. There is no space for him in the top six. He is the odd man out. Schmid isn’t developing fast enough for management and they went and got a needed piece. Fitz is assembling a roster that is extremely more formidable and gritty (if the UFA rumors are true) than last years team. Say what you will but in order to do that you need to give up pieces, which right now we currently do not need. Wish holtz and akira the best in vegas, but something needed to be done.
Honestly hope that Holtz goes over there and just fucks shit up. Prove the haters wrong my boi
Bit of a bizarre trade from Fitz, and I’m a bit bemused at the direction he’s going in. I understand we needed to get “tougher” etc but he’s sacrificing a fair amount. We need a huge free agency
Wow… I want to have faith in Fitz but this is a tough one to grasp.
I know Schmid didn’t play many games for us in the grand scheme of things but his performance against the rags last postseason is enough to make him one of my favorite players from this era.
Once you are picked, it doesn’t matter where you were drafted, it matters what you do on the ice.
Your value is what the rest of the NHL says it is.
I can just see it now this kid is gonna get ripped by all the armchair dum dums until they see how he hits anything that moves and has a little bit of a scoring touch. Give me 4 – 5 big, nasty, physical bottom six players like Cotter who can also contribute 10-12 goals any day of the week. We have enough high end scoring talent. We need to build a team with some depth and versatily now.
Holtz lovers losing their minds in here. Dude is mid
This one stings when you consider the fact this was our top pick after the disaster of a season we had in 2019-2020.
Then add to the fact the players drafted after him; Seth Jarvis, Lundell, & Askarov not too far after him.
I didn’t love Holtz as much as others here, but we could have gotten a bit more than this. Paul Cotter is bottom barrel depth player.
Holtz breakout season incoming.
Can’t wait to watch Holtz score 30 and Schmid under an actual goalie coach and a good team rebound into the goalie we saw against the Rangers.
If Devils don’t make the playoffs this year, Fitz should be gone.
Meh
Schmid for Cotter
Holtz for a 3rd
SJ didn’t want him, Calgary didn’t want him, he couldn’t make Sweden
It’s not likely Fitz just didn’t try to find value for him
Who is going to look after markstorm’s kids now??? We needed holtz to take that role
How do any of you clowns justify the insane value you expected for Holtz? GMs work the league constantly for deals. If you believe holtz has insane value, please educate the rest of us (and apparently NHL GMs)
Just call us the Titan submersible because this sub is imploding.
Look into Paul Cotter DUDE HITS!! We need this.
This move on Tkachuck might get people a lil more excited in Paul Cotter –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CGlcvilQF0
If Cotter is a solid bottom 6 forward he’ll have more of an impact on the team than Holtz did last year
Don’t hate this. We need to get bigger. We have plenty of guys who can score goals.
Clearly Holtz’s value is closer to what Fitz and Ruff were seeing than what this subreddit of armchair GMs thinks.
Wish I could say I’m surprised.