The absolute worst take anyone can take from this is: “Fuck trouba for wanting to stay a New York Ranger”
Listen guys if it were up to me, Trouba would have been gone after 2022, anyone could’ve guessed the contract was going to get ugly.
Regardless, the guy is clearly a great person, and has been a great leader. He isn’t an asshole or ‘selfish’ like I saw on twitter for excercising a very fundamental right of his contract.
I saw someone saying ‘but they’re trading him to DET how could he possibly be upset?!?!!?’ As if it at all matters where he was born and he should just accept it. NY has been a home for him for over half of a decade, and Jacob definitely knows this team is close. It’s honestly baffling how many people are surprised he’s excercising his NTC
NYM32
things that happen when you have an M-NTC. this is the business. we’re here to win a cup, not to be nice.
_mynameisclarence
They absolutely cannot bring Trouba back at this point. Guy is going to force Drury to put him on waivers.
spaideyv
I really just want some resolution to this ASAP so I can stop annoying myself with my own yapping on the subject 😭
beckfan
Ooof, the human element side to all of this.
pickles_312
Drury got bought out and essentially forced into retirement while he was captain of the Rangers. Can hardly blame him for being a little merciless when he’s put in similar positions, as he was taught this was a business the hard way.
At the end of the day, you negotiate the contract you get, and you’re the person most in control of your play. If Goodrow or Trouba didn’t want to leave via options contractually available to us, they needed to play up to their contracts. If Trouba was playing as an effective 1RD or even 2RD, like he’s paid, this wouldn’t be an issue. And I’m not saying he or Goodrow showed a lack of effort, but at the end of the day, job security is defined by job performance, in any industry.
To be clear, not saying he shouldn’t use his M-NTC to fight for his right to stay as much as possible. But Drury trying to clear his cap hit to make this team better is hardly dirty or ill-willed.
Key-Tip-7521
I just want this to be over already whether he stays or not. I do agree with the family part of it especially since Trouba has a 6 month old kid. That must suck. But at the end of the day, it’s not personal, it’s strictly business.
Did like the part about going after Marchessult, Toffoli, and Bertuzzi. As well as the center/defenseman route.
thelaxdog
If its true talks of trading Trouba are running through the org, you can’t really back out of it. They’re really kicking their captain in the balls and can’t expect him to comeback and lead like nothing happened
slow_hockey
I’m in favor of moving Trouba. And I don’t mind Trouba using all the tools available to prioritize his interests. What bugs me at the moment are these claims that Drury’s « handling » of Goodrow and Trouba doesn’t sit well with teammates. I imagine it is the team’s core that is giving some voice to this. Sorry your feelings are hurt core dudes, but too fucking bad.
R4vi0981
It’s part of being a professional athlete. Trouba is lucky enough to only have played for two teams in his NHL career. There’s tons of players with families that get moved every year. Wennberg for instance this last year moved away from his family when his wife was giving birth. I feel he’s being entitled. Not because he wants to stay here, because he’s putting that above the betterment of the team, and the organizations rights to trade him, while his play has deteriorated More and more. This is exactly what a captain does not do.
Rangers_and_Coyotes
They feel impervious to the realities the rest of the working class have. Layoffs, down sizing, demotions, shitty bosses. Just because you make $8M a year doesnt mean you get everything you want.
HanaDolgorsen
1. It is business
2. NHL players make millions of dollars a year playing a game, I don’t really care about them being forced to move every few years when they get traded
3. If Trouba played up to his contract this wouldn’t be an issue
legend1124
The Rangers didn’t riot when they fucked Zucc over they’re not gonna riot when their worst defenseman over 3 years gets moved. The way she goes
Tommybrady20
This is going to be an incredibly toxic debate on here and twitter for the foreseeable future, isn’t it.
First and foremost you’re not a bad person for wanting Trouba off your hockey team as some would like for you to believe. Yes he negotiated for a NMC, but it’s in that same contract language that the NMC turns into a 15 team list in 3 hours. At that time, Drury can do whatever the heck he pleases. Trouba’s camp being difficult over the last 2 days is just that… *being difficult.*
The ruffled feathers for uprooting a family is simply an unfortunate part of the professional sports business. But, I don’t hear a lot of outrage for career AHLers who make $80 grand that have to move every 9 months.
If the rangers fall short of expectations again in the next 1-2 years while Trouba is under contract, then Drury is the one who’s going to lose his job. It’s up for him to cut every corner and make every uncomfortable decision necessary to put us in the best position possible to win the cup… and so I ask, does anyone really believe we have the best possible chance to win the cup if Jacob Trouba is on this team making $8M? No. The answer is no.
chilistar
Why should I (or any fan) feel bad for this dingleberry? He’s making 8 million and had stability the last few years with us.
Do you realize the turmoil roster bubble guys go through for a quarter of his earnings? Eat a chode trouba. You’re not worth your contract and your PLAY is detrimental to the team at this point (at least at the $$ amount)
InevitableHome343
I am concerned about the locker room effect.
Goodrow and trouba were locker room guys who, to some on the team, can rightfully conclude « they were done dirty ».
It’s a business, and hard decisions have to be made for the team, but even with potentially 11M in cap space I feel a little icky with how things had to go down.
They still have to happen…. I just don’t love it
funkingrizzly
Guys on the team upset. Just add it to the list of reasons why this core is SAWFT
MondoMammoth
Whoever is upset can go too. Zero accountability on this squad right now.
If Trouba played to the level that an 8 million dollar defensemen does we wouldn’t be having this conversation, but he was a detriment on the ice every time he stepped on it this run.
This and the Mika’s comments crying for a winger who will pass to him, when he passes every break away opportunity he had this past season, has left a bad taste in mine and probably many other fans mouths.
Hard decisions need to be made if you want to win. This is how cups are won.
Vegas did it. Tampa
Is about to let go of Stamkos because of cap decisions. I love the dude but it’s time to move on from the 8mil boat anchor on the 3rd pairing.
HereticsSpork
Oh boohoo
Just because he wants to stay is not reason enough for him to stay. His play is why he’s being dealt. His « leadership » is why he’s being dealt. Hell, during this whole season Tro has been the guy on the ice who actually looked and acted like he wore the C. Can’t think of a single game this year where I can say that about Trouba.
Dude has made MILLIONS off his contract. He can afford to hire a nanny for his kid. He can afford to fly his wife out on a private jet to whatever city he’s at on the days she has off. He’s not struggling and his « problems » aren’t real reasons to keep him.
If getting rid of Trouba is the path to the cup, I volunteer to help him move. And I hate helping people move.
Kappokaako02
I guess the islanders/devils need to help him out lol
PeteyG89
I cant wait till hes off the team
Eire4ever
Uneasy lies the head that wears the C at MSG
LetsGoNYR
I’m not interested in feelings. They bought out Lundqvist. They need ruthless business decisions and ruthless hockey.
smd33333
He put conditions in his contract to protect him and the team wants to go around that, because they don’t value him as an 8M player. Fine. He isn’t.
But if the team on the one hand wants to get around the contract with the “it’s just business” approach I’m fine with it.
You just can’t expect players like Igor to take home team discounts when they see this stuff. it’s just business.
Pretty sure I expect to get downvoted here but other players really do notice
JuggernautOk3707
If players are pissed off bc the FO is trying to make moves to get the team to cup-level, I can live with the consequences of that. Ofc the FO will inevitably handle things poorly from time to time, but they have to do what they think will lead to winning.
SilentSaidd
I have a certain amount of sympathy for Trouba and his family given that they’ve made a life here and have a young child, along with understanding that the feeling of being unwanted is really shitty no matter who you are. But at the same time realize that no matter what he is still making $8 mil a year and is already richer than 99% of people ever will be. Will it suck to move and start over somewhere else sure, but Trouba has finanical security no matter where he goes and I’m sure after the immediate emotions run their course he’ll realize that leaving is the correct thing to do.
mttde
At the end of the day, no matter what job needs to be done by the GM, it should be done tactfully. Th
Every member of the team is a person, and regardless of how much of this league is a “business,” you can still have zero control over the human aspects of managing people. That honestly goes for anyone in any leadership position at their company, department, etc.
I’ve always been a Drury fan, and a I’m a fan of Trouba’s game. I’m good whether they trade him or not, but I’m concerned with how the team is operating. There’s no reason the captain of your team should be completely shocked, blindsided, etc.
Impressive-Heat-8722
I’m hoping Trouba comes back so he gets the « Rosival » treatment he will beg to be traded.
Impressive-Heat-8722
Who gives a shit about his wifes job . It’s no more important than any other players wifes.
He has an 8 month old, so what, families with young kids moves every day!
chronicbruce27
The level of delusion on Trouba’s part is really something else. He has no sense of how terrible his play is, and just how much he’s cost his team. He can’t fathom why they’d want to get rid of him.
Personal-Ad-2024
Why keep the guy leading the league in penalty minutes?
Kpeluso
I’m sorry, this is business. He’s an athlete, doing what many only dream of. You go where you’re dealt. It’s the career you chose.
dothingsunevercould
One last FU from Gorton from. beyond the grave giving him the NTC
LiltonPie
If guys don’t like it oh well. I get Goodrow, he was kinda screwed over, but nobody got it done. This is what happens when you don’t win, tough decisions are made.
R4vi0981
Who here would relocate from their family for two years for 16 million dollars? I imagine most would.
NYdude777
Any teammates not sitting well with this should post their playoffs stats.
kmisca92
Trouba uses his player rights to force his way out of Winnipeg giving them limited choices on where to send him, now not happy when the organization is getting rid of him oh the irony. Lol
Longjumping-Fact2923
The CBA should have some kind of provision that allows restructuring in these circumstances. Like when a player’s NMC expires it triggers a limited window for the player to renegotiate a lower cap hit to keep their NMC or something. I’m sure it would be abused, but players also want NMC’s for various reasons and for someone focused on establishing a home and putting down roots somewhere it would be cool if the league and players found a way to facilitate that.
NYR10
I’m a bit worried about the team attitude that’s gunna come from this
jkman61494
IMO, the locker room can get bent if they’re upset about how it’s been handled. This leadership had a culture where Mika felt it was ok to bitch out if fighting for a puck versus Bennet with an empty net and he comically tried to fake an injury
This leadership culture gave Panarin the feeling he could coast back like he’s skating at Rockefeller Center rather than backcheck down 1-0 in the 3rd period of Game 6
Maybe it’s time for all these playoff no showers to feel a bit uncomfortable
SeeDeez
What about just using his broken ankle or whatever the excuse was to put him on LTIR all year.
He gets to stay in NY, we get the cap space and don’t have to watch him play. Everybody wins.
DSPGerm
I’ve yet to see who we replace him with for 6m or less per year while also filling our other spots.
breadmon10
Loyalty to our players is perhaps a fatal flaw of ours the past 15 years or so
nycimt
Whiny privileged players
wdeister08
The truth is, Trouba was never worth his contract, and it was given by Drury’s predecessor. CD and co probably hoped giving Trouba the C might elevate his game. Clearly it hasn’t. Problem is, I don’t think waivers solves the issue, where Goodrow was a decent signing for his value for SJ, Trouba clearly isn’t.
-TheSkyAboveThePort
Drury is within his rights to try to move Trouba, and Trouba is within his rights to use his M-NTC clause to it’s full ability to prevent a trade.
Drury wants cap space, Trouba wants to stay a Rangers and get another shot at the cup. If Drury doesn’t like it, he can complain to Gorton for signing the contract. I will side with the player over the organization 100% of the time in these disputes
inTikiwetrust
I don’t love the start to this offseason. It just reeks of dysfunction.
Nyrfan2017
I can get the way goodrow was handled doesn’t look good to team mates .. however Trouba you had a no move that expires and the team needs cap space this is business .. he isn’t the first professional sport player to be traded and won’t be the last . If he doesn’t want to move around for family maybe he should look at a more stationary career
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The absolute worst take anyone can take from this is: “Fuck trouba for wanting to stay a New York Ranger”
Listen guys if it were up to me, Trouba would have been gone after 2022, anyone could’ve guessed the contract was going to get ugly.
Regardless, the guy is clearly a great person, and has been a great leader. He isn’t an asshole or ‘selfish’ like I saw on twitter for excercising a very fundamental right of his contract.
I saw someone saying ‘but they’re trading him to DET how could he possibly be upset?!?!!?’ As if it at all matters where he was born and he should just accept it. NY has been a home for him for over half of a decade, and Jacob definitely knows this team is close. It’s honestly baffling how many people are surprised he’s excercising his NTC
things that happen when you have an M-NTC. this is the business. we’re here to win a cup, not to be nice.
They absolutely cannot bring Trouba back at this point. Guy is going to force Drury to put him on waivers.
I really just want some resolution to this ASAP so I can stop annoying myself with my own yapping on the subject 😭
Ooof, the human element side to all of this.
Drury got bought out and essentially forced into retirement while he was captain of the Rangers. Can hardly blame him for being a little merciless when he’s put in similar positions, as he was taught this was a business the hard way.
At the end of the day, you negotiate the contract you get, and you’re the person most in control of your play. If Goodrow or Trouba didn’t want to leave via options contractually available to us, they needed to play up to their contracts. If Trouba was playing as an effective 1RD or even 2RD, like he’s paid, this wouldn’t be an issue. And I’m not saying he or Goodrow showed a lack of effort, but at the end of the day, job security is defined by job performance, in any industry.
To be clear, not saying he shouldn’t use his M-NTC to fight for his right to stay as much as possible. But Drury trying to clear his cap hit to make this team better is hardly dirty or ill-willed.
I just want this to be over already whether he stays or not. I do agree with the family part of it especially since Trouba has a 6 month old kid. That must suck. But at the end of the day, it’s not personal, it’s strictly business.
Did like the part about going after Marchessult, Toffoli, and Bertuzzi. As well as the center/defenseman route.
If its true talks of trading Trouba are running through the org, you can’t really back out of it. They’re really kicking their captain in the balls and can’t expect him to comeback and lead like nothing happened
I’m in favor of moving Trouba. And I don’t mind Trouba using all the tools available to prioritize his interests. What bugs me at the moment are these claims that Drury’s « handling » of Goodrow and Trouba doesn’t sit well with teammates. I imagine it is the team’s core that is giving some voice to this. Sorry your feelings are hurt core dudes, but too fucking bad.
It’s part of being a professional athlete. Trouba is lucky enough to only have played for two teams in his NHL career. There’s tons of players with families that get moved every year. Wennberg for instance this last year moved away from his family when his wife was giving birth. I feel he’s being entitled. Not because he wants to stay here, because he’s putting that above the betterment of the team, and the organizations rights to trade him, while his play has deteriorated More and more. This is exactly what a captain does not do.
They feel impervious to the realities the rest of the working class have. Layoffs, down sizing, demotions, shitty bosses. Just because you make $8M a year doesnt mean you get everything you want.
1. It is business
2. NHL players make millions of dollars a year playing a game, I don’t really care about them being forced to move every few years when they get traded
3. If Trouba played up to his contract this wouldn’t be an issue
The Rangers didn’t riot when they fucked Zucc over they’re not gonna riot when their worst defenseman over 3 years gets moved. The way she goes
This is going to be an incredibly toxic debate on here and twitter for the foreseeable future, isn’t it.
First and foremost you’re not a bad person for wanting Trouba off your hockey team as some would like for you to believe. Yes he negotiated for a NMC, but it’s in that same contract language that the NMC turns into a 15 team list in 3 hours. At that time, Drury can do whatever the heck he pleases. Trouba’s camp being difficult over the last 2 days is just that… *being difficult.*
The ruffled feathers for uprooting a family is simply an unfortunate part of the professional sports business. But, I don’t hear a lot of outrage for career AHLers who make $80 grand that have to move every 9 months.
If the rangers fall short of expectations again in the next 1-2 years while Trouba is under contract, then Drury is the one who’s going to lose his job. It’s up for him to cut every corner and make every uncomfortable decision necessary to put us in the best position possible to win the cup… and so I ask, does anyone really believe we have the best possible chance to win the cup if Jacob Trouba is on this team making $8M? No. The answer is no.
Why should I (or any fan) feel bad for this dingleberry? He’s making 8 million and had stability the last few years with us.
Do you realize the turmoil roster bubble guys go through for a quarter of his earnings? Eat a chode trouba. You’re not worth your contract and your PLAY is detrimental to the team at this point (at least at the $$ amount)
I am concerned about the locker room effect.
Goodrow and trouba were locker room guys who, to some on the team, can rightfully conclude « they were done dirty ».
It’s a business, and hard decisions have to be made for the team, but even with potentially 11M in cap space I feel a little icky with how things had to go down.
They still have to happen…. I just don’t love it
Guys on the team upset. Just add it to the list of reasons why this core is SAWFT
Whoever is upset can go too. Zero accountability on this squad right now.
If Trouba played to the level that an 8 million dollar defensemen does we wouldn’t be having this conversation, but he was a detriment on the ice every time he stepped on it this run.
This and the Mika’s comments crying for a winger who will pass to him, when he passes every break away opportunity he had this past season, has left a bad taste in mine and probably many other fans mouths.
Hard decisions need to be made if you want to win. This is how cups are won.
Vegas did it. Tampa
Is about to let go of Stamkos because of cap decisions. I love the dude but it’s time to move on from the 8mil boat anchor on the 3rd pairing.
Oh boohoo
Just because he wants to stay is not reason enough for him to stay. His play is why he’s being dealt. His « leadership » is why he’s being dealt. Hell, during this whole season Tro has been the guy on the ice who actually looked and acted like he wore the C. Can’t think of a single game this year where I can say that about Trouba.
Dude has made MILLIONS off his contract. He can afford to hire a nanny for his kid. He can afford to fly his wife out on a private jet to whatever city he’s at on the days she has off. He’s not struggling and his « problems » aren’t real reasons to keep him.
If getting rid of Trouba is the path to the cup, I volunteer to help him move. And I hate helping people move.
I guess the islanders/devils need to help him out lol
I cant wait till hes off the team
Uneasy lies the head that wears the C at MSG
I’m not interested in feelings. They bought out Lundqvist. They need ruthless business decisions and ruthless hockey.
He put conditions in his contract to protect him and the team wants to go around that, because they don’t value him as an 8M player. Fine. He isn’t.
But if the team on the one hand wants to get around the contract with the “it’s just business” approach I’m fine with it.
You just can’t expect players like Igor to take home team discounts when they see this stuff. it’s just business.
Pretty sure I expect to get downvoted here but other players really do notice
If players are pissed off bc the FO is trying to make moves to get the team to cup-level, I can live with the consequences of that. Ofc the FO will inevitably handle things poorly from time to time, but they have to do what they think will lead to winning.
I have a certain amount of sympathy for Trouba and his family given that they’ve made a life here and have a young child, along with understanding that the feeling of being unwanted is really shitty no matter who you are. But at the same time realize that no matter what he is still making $8 mil a year and is already richer than 99% of people ever will be. Will it suck to move and start over somewhere else sure, but Trouba has finanical security no matter where he goes and I’m sure after the immediate emotions run their course he’ll realize that leaving is the correct thing to do.
At the end of the day, no matter what job needs to be done by the GM, it should be done tactfully. Th
Every member of the team is a person, and regardless of how much of this league is a “business,” you can still have zero control over the human aspects of managing people. That honestly goes for anyone in any leadership position at their company, department, etc.
I’ve always been a Drury fan, and a I’m a fan of Trouba’s game. I’m good whether they trade him or not, but I’m concerned with how the team is operating. There’s no reason the captain of your team should be completely shocked, blindsided, etc.
I’m hoping Trouba comes back so he gets the « Rosival » treatment he will beg to be traded.
Who gives a shit about his wifes job . It’s no more important than any other players wifes.
He has an 8 month old, so what, families with young kids moves every day!
The level of delusion on Trouba’s part is really something else. He has no sense of how terrible his play is, and just how much he’s cost his team. He can’t fathom why they’d want to get rid of him.
Why keep the guy leading the league in penalty minutes?
I’m sorry, this is business. He’s an athlete, doing what many only dream of. You go where you’re dealt. It’s the career you chose.
One last FU from Gorton from. beyond the grave giving him the NTC
If guys don’t like it oh well. I get Goodrow, he was kinda screwed over, but nobody got it done. This is what happens when you don’t win, tough decisions are made.
Who here would relocate from their family for two years for 16 million dollars? I imagine most would.
Any teammates not sitting well with this should post their playoffs stats.
Trouba uses his player rights to force his way out of Winnipeg giving them limited choices on where to send him, now not happy when the organization is getting rid of him oh the irony. Lol
The CBA should have some kind of provision that allows restructuring in these circumstances. Like when a player’s NMC expires it triggers a limited window for the player to renegotiate a lower cap hit to keep their NMC or something. I’m sure it would be abused, but players also want NMC’s for various reasons and for someone focused on establishing a home and putting down roots somewhere it would be cool if the league and players found a way to facilitate that.
I’m a bit worried about the team attitude that’s gunna come from this
IMO, the locker room can get bent if they’re upset about how it’s been handled. This leadership had a culture where Mika felt it was ok to bitch out if fighting for a puck versus Bennet with an empty net and he comically tried to fake an injury
This leadership culture gave Panarin the feeling he could coast back like he’s skating at Rockefeller Center rather than backcheck down 1-0 in the 3rd period of Game 6
Maybe it’s time for all these playoff no showers to feel a bit uncomfortable
What about just using his broken ankle or whatever the excuse was to put him on LTIR all year.
He gets to stay in NY, we get the cap space and don’t have to watch him play. Everybody wins.
I’ve yet to see who we replace him with for 6m or less per year while also filling our other spots.
Loyalty to our players is perhaps a fatal flaw of ours the past 15 years or so
Whiny privileged players
The truth is, Trouba was never worth his contract, and it was given by Drury’s predecessor. CD and co probably hoped giving Trouba the C might elevate his game. Clearly it hasn’t. Problem is, I don’t think waivers solves the issue, where Goodrow was a decent signing for his value for SJ, Trouba clearly isn’t.
Drury is within his rights to try to move Trouba, and Trouba is within his rights to use his M-NTC clause to it’s full ability to prevent a trade.
Drury wants cap space, Trouba wants to stay a Rangers and get another shot at the cup. If Drury doesn’t like it, he can complain to Gorton for signing the contract. I will side with the player over the organization 100% of the time in these disputes
I don’t love the start to this offseason. It just reeks of dysfunction.
I can get the way goodrow was handled doesn’t look good to team mates .. however Trouba you had a no move that expires and the team needs cap space this is business .. he isn’t the first professional sport player to be traded and won’t be the last . If he doesn’t want to move around for family maybe he should look at a more stationary career