Détroit s’est amélioré sur les marges en signant Cam Talbot, Erik Gustafsson, Christian Fischer et une rafale de joueurs de calibre AHL aujourd’hui, ouvrant peut-être la porte au mouvement de jeunesse tant convoité. Mais rater des vétérans à fort impact comme Steven Stamkos pour compléter cette jeunesse pourrait également entraîner une baisse par rapport à leur total de points de la saison précédente, une première dans l’ère Yzerman. Mais en même temps, nous sommes heureux qu’il ait tenu bon sur certaines offres, car les accords distribués le premier jour étaient flagrants. #LGRW Soutenez-nous en soutenant nos sponsors ! eBay MotorsPour les pièces qui conviennent, rendez-vous sur eBay Motors et recherchez la coche verte. Restez dans le jeu avec eBay Guaranteed Fit sur eBayMotos.com. C’est parti. eBay Guaranteed Fit n’est disponible que pour les clients américains. Articles éligibles uniquement. Des exclusions s’appliquent. GametimeTéléchargez l’application Gametime, créez un compte et utilisez le code LOCKEDONNHL pour obtenir une réduction de 20 $ sur votre premier achat. Des conditions s’appliquent. FanDuelFanDuel, le bookmaker numéro un en Amérique. Alors que les séries éliminatoires se terminent, les sports cessent de se dérouler comme nous le souhaitons. Mais cet été, FanDuel offre à TOUS LES CLIENTS un boost ou un bonus, TOUS LES JOURS ! C’est vrai, il y en a pour tous les goûts, tous les jours, tout l’été ! Visitez FANDUEL.COM/LOCKEDON et ajoutez une grosse victoire à votre liste de choses à faire cet été ! AVERTISSEMENT DE FANDUEL : 21 ans et plus dans certains États. Premier pari en ligne en argent réel uniquement. Bonus émis sous forme de paris gratuits non retirables qui expirent dans 14 jours. Des restrictions s’appliquent. Voir les conditions sur sportsbook.fanduel.com. Problème de jeu ? Appelez le 1-800-GAMBLER ou visitez FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP ou envoyez NEXTSTEP par SMS au 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 ou visitez ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) ou visitez ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY ou envoyez HOPENY (467369) par SMS (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Suivez et abonnez-vous sur toutes les plateformes de podcasts… 🎧 https://link.chtbl.com/LORedWings?sid=YouTube Locked On NHL League-Wide: Every Team, Fantasy, Prospects & More 🎧 https://linktr.ee/LockedOnNHL #NHL #RedWings #Detroit #DetroitRedWings
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I'm really ok with relying heavily on our youth because I'd like to see were we are with them finally see how they can be than just signing a butt load of veterans. We're not in a cup window anyway. Just take a risk and see how they'll do
F this team.. running back a weaker roster than last season.
Kane’s gotta be pissed already with how it’s looking
Playoff bonus?😂
If you include Raymond, JFV, And Berggren, the Wings have 11 forwards. You are talking about one spot that a rookie could take. Maybe they sign someone, maybe they trade for someone, maybe its 1 rookie. Why are we talking like there will be 10 rookies on this team?
There are 9 NHL D signed and 4 NHL Goalies. I feel like a trade is coming, but even if it doesn't, this isn't a rookie laden roster.
Probably no trades until Mo and Raymond resigned and we know the numbers.
What I want is for us to have signed one more top six forward and zero bottom six. Let the kids play in the bottom six but I do not want to watch another carousel of trying to figure out who that fourth winger is in the top lines
Chandler got about 6.5 mil. for about 60 points. Wings would've had to pay over 7 mil. by the time the dust settled. The haters would have sccreamed about paying for crazy contracts. So hate if you sign…hate if you dont.
I’m not upset that Yzerman couldn’t get a good deal from these free agents, I’m upset that he cap dumped Walman with an asset for no reason. If he wasn’t going to get deals from the market, then what’s the point of dumping Walman?
In case nobody has figured it out yet, Steve is an ultra-conservative GM. I would be absolutely shocked to ever see any big splash moves from him going forward until the Wings are in their contention window…
I am glad we didn't throw out money like it's candy. We addressed goal tending again so hopefully it's better than last year. We added some defense so hopefully that will help our tandem, whoever it may be. Am disappointed we didn't address our scoring problem
I think it is pretty unfair to assess things now. That Trouba trade hold up really messed things up. That could’ve helped if a bad contract was shipped back. That situation handcuffed both the Rangers and us from an early splash. Seen possible scenarios where it was Trouba and Kakko possibly. Wouldn’t be opposed to that. But, Trouba if the Wings haven’t washed their hands of the situation pushes other moves to the right time wise. Ekblad could be in play too. Patience might be in order to fully evaluate here.
Anyone still blindly defending Yzerman and the Yzerplan please take your beer goggles off. The cope is hard for a lot of fans for this team. We waited 5 years for yesterday and we GOT WORSE. 😂
People forgot, players have to want to play in Detroit, it's not a video game 😂 Plenty of teams over spent .
The math probably doesn’t work, but a Necas trade is still possible. Although, the rumors aren’t there. Last summer, it was all but a certainty that DeBrincat was coming to Detroit.
I think Detroit’s signings can be graded at a Meh- . However, I think Yzerman is still going to make moves.
Detroit has the #2 prospect pipeline but nobody wants to play the kids. What? We are not close to beating the Florida Panthers.
Yzerman wants an improvement on team defense. Detroit is a better defensive team today than a year ago. That is the goal or Newsy is gone.
It’s ok to play the kids and miss the playoff. It’s a rebuild.
Kane is the ONLY thing I care about on this team.
Kane and Talbot are good signings. The rest were like shopping at the Dollar store…….bought a lot of stuff but not much is quality. These signings represent a great opportunity for the "young guns" to win a job with the Wings. I hope this was Steve's intent.
Guys STEVE he’s doing the best he can. Be Happy . We see how the season go. Let’s give chance.
Wings need at least 1 more PHYSICAL Winger…who loves to hit ! 😊
Boring off season. Not going to make the playoffs again and the team still has no grit. Boring off season and a boring team.
It' s obvious no top.notch free agent was coming here. Who they signed was did not amount to much and right now on paper the roster is weaker than last summer.
Sure they signed Kane but despite his comeback last season can he hold up over a full schedule? His camp likely saw the lack of enthusiasm for him so he stayed.
What they lost in trades and free agents leaving is more of a problem.
I am content with what we have done in free agency so far as long as there is something still brewing, no word yet on the trouba trade or nechas, I haven't seen him signing with Carolina yet and they made a lot of signings yesterday
We didn't get better at all we 8.5 mil in 4 Goalies that r avg at best WTF we did not need another left hand defense he a cheaper version of walman makes know sense. You keep your 2 worse defense Holl and Petry. You got Kane and Fisher back with is great but know else. Steve has put this team farther behind with not sign good FA the last 3yrs. The only thing he has done good is drafting. I think it time to stop giving Steve a pass
In my opinion we need a 2nd line center a top 6 winger and a reliable D man im glad that he didn't over pay i like stam but not at 8 mil per year we have a log jam in GR it's time to bring them up and see what we really have and see if they are good or its time to move them out
I like the goaltending better than last year. Talbot’s numbers are good. Don’t remember him frequently being injured historically. Two years isn’t that bad. Might trade out Husso’s contract hopefully or waive him. Don’t think anyone would claim Campbell so could send him to GR if it isn’t a one way deal.
I’m so tired of the apologists for Stevie Y, he’s not what fans expected when he became the G.M. Time to move on.
There are two things to consider here. First, the elephants in the room. Ray and Mo don't have contracts yet. Stevie did say this would affect what we can do in FA, as money needed to be left for them under the cap. Second, do you remember all the complaining from folks last year about how we signed way too many vets instead of promoting the kids? Yeah… I do. I think we're promoting the kids, and many of these two-way contracts are taking the places of kids in GR.
I would've loved to land Stamkos and/or Marchy, but I think the writing was on the wall last season, when we signed all those vets.
alex was fine last year, we didnt have a goaltender to help him out
Obviously, the deals are not finished. Yzerman decided that the trade route was the smarter way to improve the club after hearing what his targets were going to get. He was not going to give Stamkos 8M over 4 years. Marchessault would have been a possibility for what he got, but he chose Nashville. Roy was an overpayment, Stephenson was an overpayment. Here's what I'm seeing:
A full off-season with Kane working with linemates should equal or improve his stats.
Ghost was huge on the PP, but a liability defensively 5 on 5. Gustafsson should improve the defensive aspect and could help on the PP.
Edvinsson is an improvement at LD. Johansson is ready to step in and often was talked about as the most important player at GR. Walman was scratched last year a couple times before he got hurt.
Like bringing back Fischer.
Perron was great in the locker room, but took far too many stupid penalties in the 3rd period last year. The hope is that a Berggren could make up for the offensive aspect of Perron's game and is faster to help on the defensive end.
Getting Rasmussen back should help with the net front.
Mazur and Kasper should get a shot to help out.
What I see possibly happening:
Husso and at least one LD either traded or bought out. I could also see someone like Fabbri packaged, mainly because he is making $4M a year, and as it looks will probably be a 4th liner. Yzerman shipped out Kostin last year because he was making $2M on the 4th line. If Copp is traded, they will have to retain some salary. Could see Detroit being in on Necas,, Zegras or Laine. (That's my preference in order).
Defensively, they should be better. Still need to find some offense.
This is the first time I have ever lost confidence in Yzerman. We are worse now then last year.
Brian stop the rant please, your point is well made. Yzerman did good by avoiding the manic spending of FA. Remember there is still a trade market. Some of these bad contracts will come home to roost.
I want to do people realize CAM TALBOT is the first goaltender that was an All-Star the previous season that the Red Wings have signed in the off-season since Dominik Hasek in 2002?!😅.. that's just WILD when you think about it..
Stevie-Y carries goalies on Deck like the average Men's League captain😂..
.. " hey Can (Talbot) can you play net tonight Alex (Lyon) isn't feeling well..
Okay, here are my thoughts so far. This will be a bit lenghty so feel free to scroll on and ignore my post if it bothers you so much, ok? Here we go… There is a saying in free agency that could be applied here, "sometimes the moves you DON'T DO, are the best ones"… With Seider & Raymond needing new contract (meaning both will get their salarys bumped basically ten folds! From 8-900k to likely 8-9 mil), anyone with half a brain should understand this was NOT the offseason to go crazy in free agency. This is what Stevie Y had pointed at all along! So not sure why people get so worked up…
Did you want more overpaid contracts that are hindering the future? He probably learned that free agency is more of a stop gap solution then a real effective way to build a winner. Im super greatful that he did not get another Copp or Chiarot at long term. Now let's see what he done so far:
Best move imo is bringing in Erik Gustafsson over Gostisbehere! I know, he might not be as "sexy" of a player like Ghost, but he fills the same role on A LOT better contract and value. His strenght isnt defensive, but he is alot more steady on a third pair then Ghost was, so only comparing that is a clear win between the two! He was a regular on the president trophy winner team the New York Rangers! Just that fact should tell you he is a quality player.
ALSO! And this is a big one i think many oversee, he has experience and a proven record to run a PP when he played in Chicago with DeBrincat & Kane! He was their #1 PP guy there and he put up 17 goals, 60p while playing with them. So does he have potential to make up that 10 goals, 56p we lost in Ghost WHILE being better defensively on a third pair? This at a potential steal of a contract? Heck yeah! This is a slam dunk signing for me, specially if you where looking after a guy that specifically are gonna fill Gostisbehere role. (Sidenote, not sure how Helene can have a job as a writer stating this is a signing to bolster the defensive part of the team and "not being a PP quarterback" like she is saying in her freep article, when he specifically been used and seen as a "PP specialist" all his career. But I digress…)
Ok lets get to the rest… Talbot was a bit of a headscratcher for me, but if they are planning to move on from Husso (maybe they know something that we don't about his injury situation?), it makes sense. Also, if Talbot does not work out and with the goalie market being thin as it is, his contract was short and relative small cap, so wont be that hard to move seing he is a proven guy who actually was a all star goalie in LA as their starter on a playoff team last season which i think people forget.
Jack Campbell is imo a slam dunk signing for Grand Rapids! It is on leauge minimum on a 1 year, so ZERO RISK! He is replacing Michael Hutchinson who only played ONE GAME for us in Detroit, so calm the f*ck down people! Also you need your 3rd goalie to be able to move up and down to pass through waivers which people seem to not understand! If you want a "better 3rd goalie" then you cant get him through waivers, facts. AND again, he is mostly signed to be the backup and mentor for Sebastian Cossa, who where drafted simular spot to Campbell who can offer experience and advice from that with him being used to pressure after being the #1 guy in Toronto for several years. YES, YES, YES he did not work out in Edmonton and was a major flop signed there on a 5 mil cap, yes fine whatever he IS NOT signed here for the same purpuse. Also he did fine in the AHL last season where he put up 92% and 18 wins in 30 some games. A slam dunk 3rd string/AHL veteran backup goalie who can come up (again, like Hutchinson did last year) and give you a solid game here and there. He is NOT signed to be anything else, so stop whining!!! Zero risk and with the off chance he will revive his NHL career and be the backup (simular to players like Lyon have or look no further then Calvin Pickard in Edmonton who stole his job last year, just got awarded a 2 year extension with the Oilers to act as their backup this after recived simular complaints when he signed with us for a couple of years agoo to act as our 3rd goalie, and look at him now. So how is this a bad thing???)
I wont comment more about the other signings cause they are so minor and i don't see people complaining about those needing to adress, bringing back Fischer on exactly the same low cap deal and totally burieble contract is a no brainer. Lagesson, Snively and Dries are AHL depth signings who are able to fill in a game here and there in the NHL if a ton of injurys happen, simular to Campbell i already adressed.
What else? Yes we let Perron walk to Ottawa, it was a no brainer for me and apperantly Stevie Y aswell. I would have been very disappointed if they would have put 4 mil into him with an extra year, no thanks! This is where a guy like Carter Mazur (or Elmer Söderblom if he bounces back) could be given a real NHL chance (and i havnt even talked about Berggren yet who also needs a spot, cant bring back EVERY VETERAN if you want to improve, which you do in a rebuild from within), who i think many fans would like to see. Perron was slowing down and costing us lots of bad penaltys doing so. I would have been ok with bringing him back on a 1 year around 1,5-2 mil to play on our bottom six but 4??? Hell no, we dodged a bullet there.
More moves are coming rest assure. That 2nd pair right dman is the big one for me i'm waiting for. There where ZERO good solutions on that in free agency! If you did not want to overpay and give out a crazy contract like Matt Roy got at 7(!) years at almost 6 mil, I mean c'mon thats crazy and the best move in free agency is to stay away from those kind of moves… No, trading for other teams players who are desperate for cap space in "the now" is the way to go here. Trouba on 2 years or Ekblad at 1 year is my target, both teams are desperate to free up cap space and could even retain salary doing so. This while still giving up a good player (like we did in Walman who did not fit any more on our specific roster but does well in SJ, this is the type of move you want to look for if you are Detroit with these guys). You wont need to give up anything of real value in these types of cap dump transactions, again, you saw that in the Walman move… I think one of Ekblad and Trouba will wound up here, both have been tied (and have local connections and family here) to us.
Once that is adressed, this team is improved sorely on the guys they let walk (like Perron) and the guys from within who will take the next step. The one thing left to adress outside that right handed dman on a 2nd pair (where you probably dump one of Holl or Maatta in return) is scoring depth since they have 2 spots left on forward to use. Here is where i probably circle back to Daniel Sprong who brought great value first part of the season atleast (and been reported being a good buddy to Kane aswell) since there isnt alot of good options on that left on FA, for the low cap and term Detroit can afford to give out. Anyways, my who cents. Thx for listening & LGRW! #believe
Why do we have 8 d men? Not including our young guys that are coming up?
Stamkos wasn't going to Detroit after the multiple hometown discounts he gave Yzerman in Tampa.
Yzerman has realized that the market is just too pricey. I think he’ll take the trade route to acquire either a top 4 D or top 6 wing. Shane Pinto requested a trade yesterday, though Ottawa probably not looking to trade another wing to DET.
The top 6 is really a conundrum at this point though. Kane is great but who do you put on that line? Where does he slot? I don’t really think the Cat – Larkin – Kane line works that well but there’s not many options. Kasper works his butt off and Kasper – Compher – Kane could be a solid 2nd line.
What are we waffling about here, people? We already knew some young guys had to make an impact this year. So now instead of two rookies we might need to play three. I'm in, I'm not considering Berggren and Edvinsson "rookies". We know they're ready for the NHL. So there's Johansson, Mazur, and Kasper. Yeah, there's no way to know how good they'll be. But the plan for the season didn't change. You're all freaking out because we didn't get that one superstar to solve all of our problems.
You know what would actually solve our problems? Lalonde gets this team to play a consistent and effective style of hockey. Behind that better defense, we get just serviceable goaltending from three serviceable guys. Kane is just as good or better after his first good summer of training in a long time. Several other forwards like Copp, Rasmussen, Fabbri and Compher chip in a little more. Raymond, Larkin, and DeBrincat haven't even better season, which they easily all could.
shrug
Already knew this is what needed to happen, even if they added Stamkos or Guentzel. The only thing that kinda sucks is losing Perron. Thought he'd be willing to take a little less than 4 to stay here.
Look at the price of all the big names out there. Everyone would have crucified yzerman if he handed out one of those contracts. There is still trade possibilities out there.
Detroit has a lot of young guys coming up. Detroit signed a bunch of 1-2 year contracts. I don’t think Detroit is actually better this year. But more like more roster space available. Over the next 1-2 years.
This off season isn't about getting better. It's about bringing the kids up and not taking a huge step back.
I like the Talbot signing. He's cheap and dependable. He is older, but his career average Save percentage is .913, which is the same as his percentage this season. He is a known quantity. I would rather sign Talbot to this contract than throw a ton of money at a true #1 when we aren't ready for real playoff success.
Detroit will miss Perron on the Power Play. He was great along the boards and close to the net. Maybe the hope is that Berggren can fill that void on the PP.
The biggest hope is that Edvinsson and Albert Johansson can really step up and play well to improve team defense, especially with the loss of Walman.
Yzerman really needs to move at least one of their surplus defense contracts and that's what I would expect to see happen this summer before next season. That may be a trade or a buyout.
We need to bring up the kids. Cannot keep them in AHL forever.
Time is now. Next summer is when we will have 10-12M in cap space that we can make a splash
Too many old vets this summer
Amazing that no one asked Red Wings GM these questions????