S’il y a une chose qui est claire à propos du hockey de Rick Tocchet, c’est qu’il convoite les grands défenseurs! Patrik Allvin et Jim Rutherford ont fait un excellent travail pour accaparer le marché de ces mutants, de Carson Soucy à Nikita Zadorov, et maintenant Derek Forbort et Vincent Desharnais! Cependant, la taille à l’arrière n’est pas toujours synonyme de compétence. Dans cette vidéo, je décompose les points positifs et négatifs de chacun des nouveaux défenseurs des Canucks!
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What are your thoughts on these two signings? Other than Zadorov, is there anyone you would have rather signed?
I think these 2 d-man can improve under the Tocchet coaching staff with Adam Foote & Sergei Gonchar. Look at what they did with Tyler Myers making a player the fans wanting to ship out ASAP to being a very solid 2nd pairing. They took Hronek who was a decent player and made the him one of the elite d-man alongside a Norris winner in Hughes. No doubt this coaching staff can get the best out of these guys as well.
Just subscribed because I liked how short simple and informative your videos are😊
I hope they work out but if they don’t they are replaceable, remember when we were signing guys like this for our top pairing? Feels like 1st world problems
I wouldn't mind seeing Soucy with one and Myers with the other and have both pairings split the non Hughes Hronek minutes!?
Rutherford and Allvin are playing Moneypuck and doing quite well at it.
Subscribed. Quite impressed with the depth of your analysis and the brevity. Keep up the great work.
If any of these new d-men fails, I wonder if Jett Woo might have a shot at being called up?
😂 professor X
Canucks just got slower and weaker on defence
I think Desharnais can improve to become a slightly worse Zadorov with the help of our coaching team, but Forbort seems too risky to bank on given his injury history. Good thing he is only signed for a year.
Forbort is ass
sad to see desharnais go, but good luck at the canucks
I’m a little concerned with the bottom pair but improving the forward core had to come from somewhere. It would have been nice to get someone like carrier but I can see what they’re going for here
Forborts metric PK is 99
Luke was right Canucks suck. And like the sabres they will never win a cup..alvin is a dolt, The owners are a joke don't spend money on marquis players..lindh9lm/zadorov/ their best players in playoffs and wont sign them is proof of there incompetence. Wouldnt give Z an extra 300k to stay? Owners dont have winning mentality and never spend. Dont say the cap, they can make room. The best forward theyve had in 30 years is marcus naslund..messier didnt count..its a loser franchise for a loser city. Luke was right. Managing money doesnt win cups spending does
As a Bruins fan I'll tell you that Forbort is amazing at killing penalties. Everything else not so much. But as a bottom third sixth defenseman he's not too bad.
This team is being built for Rick Tocchet. So I trust the process. As well they have Adam Foote and Sergei Gonchar, two Stanley Cup champions coaching the defensive end. I believe they can mold anyone into the player they need.
Good content. I like hearing both the upside and downside of a players.
Did you say branstrom is right handed?
You're from Surrey @TheBluelineHockey??
I AM A BRUINS FAN AND FORBORT IS NOT A MUTANT. IN FACT HE IS THE OPPOSITE. HE IS A LIABILTY ON THE ICE, HE IS NOT PHYSICAL , CANNOT PLAY AGAINST OTHER TEAMS TOP 6 AND ADDS ZERO OFFENSE. WHEN HE BECAME HEALTHY HE WAS BENCHED IN THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE HIS DECISION MAKING WAS AWFUL. HE IS AT BEST A NUMBER 6 DEFENSEMAN ON A TEAM THAT BARELY MAKES THE PLAYOFFS AND A HEALTHY SCRATCH FOR A TEAM WITH HIGH ASPIRATIONS. GLAD HE IS NO LONGER A BRUIN
The Team Also Got Tougher
Absolutely gutted to see deharnais go, but seeing the 2 mill price tag is why for sure. And redeeming qualities? That height, reach, commitment to the team and the system and he's more of a two way than defensive def. He does make mistakes and stumbles, but I think that is the inexperience, just give him minutes and a great linemate. This 2 mill is like a projection of his potential value, so 1 year makes sense so he can be given these minutes. Sad to see him go, especially to a rival but all the more reason to watch the Canucks. Proud of edm and vinni!
😂😂Forbort is absolutely not a mutant. Boston fans have wanted that guy shot out of a canon for years, you’re gonna hate him lol.
Honestly i saw this commet somewhere else buts its spot on. Alvin hand picked players who look like toccet style players and will improve greatly under him. Canucks forward core got alot deeper and the dcore at worst stays the same and at best, will be hell to play against
I hope vinny does well for vancouver
Steve Yzerman loves staring into the distance, channeling Joe Biden and wondering why no free agents want to come to Detroit.
Desharnea cannot skate …
Pretty weak defence now. Debrusk is streaky probably better in the playoffs. The real issue here is Pettersson if he plays like he did in the last half of the year we’re in trouble.
two for the price of 1 I like it
1:43 Thumbs-down for calling a slap shot a "clapper". Come on MAN this is Canada! We don't need some US basketball commentator spin changing the hockey language (that's where clapper came from).
we say Z (rhymes with ed)
we spell it colour (not color)
we say slap shot….never clapper (OMG that's lame)
As an Oiler fan l am sad to see Vinny go but l get it, you are 29 years old and you gotta take care of yourself financially. I know Vinny wanted to work something out but it's a business right? Canuk fans you are getting a really good defenseman with a huge reach. Great team guy who plays smart. You guys lost Zaborov who l thought was over rated and the replacements are better team guys. Vinny l think will become a fan favorite there . Gl and thx for your play in Edmonton.
Oilers PP destroyed everybody including the Canucks. seems like a bit of an over reaction to focus so much on PK when their own PP is even worse.
Z was overrated. Less points than Myers and got suspended just another dirty player that will cause problems in Boston.
got poolman on ltir, they dont use ltir till the start of the season (opening day roster )so…
Was gonna get an oilers Vinny D jersey, might have to get a nucks one instead
Zadorov really? So are we going to see another 8 years of losing yet again. The trade is BS and sucks. Why not get rid of Myers he sucks. Why do we get rid of all the good talent? What's next trade Demko for Quick maybe.
Brendan Dillon would have been a better option. I talked to him at 8 rinks once and he wanted to play here. He’s tough, reliable, and smart. Forbert is a mistake: I remember when he chased Hoglander around gooning him!
The one thing you don't address is heart. These guys will do whatever to protect teammates and Tockett will get the best out of them.
Canucks needs still
1.Still need a Puck moving D Man in our Third pairing unless they split Hronek and Hughes up
2.A Top 6 Forward as well
Boqvist is an option
Schultz is another option but years ago he had a chance to sign with Vancouver but declined only to sign with Guess who…Our Enemies Edmonton Oilers
I trust Rutherford though
Juulsen is a better Dman than Desharnais.
Forbort is a healthy Poolman 2.0!
Just look at how Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar transformed Tyler Myers game. He wasn't worth a bag of Pucks his first 5 season in Van. Last season he was stellar and heavily trusted by coaching staff.
Tocchet and the top management want a team that's no fun to play against, so I think with Tocchet, Foote and Gonchar teaching their system, they can hopefully improve both players short comings. If not, they'll be on the Kuzmenko train that leaves town. And, with the addition of Sherwood and DeBrusk, the toughness factor is even higher. Both players can also find the net. This current lineup shouldn't be too much fun to face. I liked the comment, the visiting teams will be stocking up on pain killers. Ha ha. Couldn't agree more!