[Puckspo] Les données suivies le confirment : soyez enthousiastes à propos de Beck, effacez Mesar
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Jaskwatch
@Canadiens de Montréal
[Puckspo] Les données suivies le confirment : soyez enthousiastes à propos de Beck, effacez Mesar
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Jaskwatch
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Still kinda wish the Habs drafted Kulich over Mesar.
Mesar is done. Oh well, late first round picks don’t always hit.
Oh no we only got Slafkovsky, Beck, Hutson and maybe Engstrom from that draft, what a disaster…
Busts happen in the first all the time, still an incredible draft year for us.
Mesar was Slaf’ friend so I’m still glad we got him. He’s not terrible either, but Beck and Kapanen are better prospects rn. I get why some fans are mad that we drafted him that high, tho
I hope he’ll adapt and stay with us and do good in the AHL, and perhaps in 9 years he’ll fill a hole in the NHL for a few months when we’ll need him the most, and he’ll get to make that pass right on Slaf’s stick on the second wave of the PP in the Stanley Cup finale 7th game’s OT.
If anything the linked posts make it seem like Xhekaj is the one fans shouldn’t get excited about at all
Mesar will be given every opportunity to make a case for himself in Laval, but yeah he’s definitely trending more towards Europe than the NHL at the moment.
Whiffing on a late first-rounder is excusable at the best of times, though, and that draft year was an especially tough one, with even more scouting guesswork involved than normal due to “that Covid thing”. If Mesar doesn’t hit, the fact that we managed to land Beck and Hutson after him more than makes up for it.
The streak of picks immediately following Mesar is kinda killing me: Bystedt, Kulich, Lamoureux, Lambert, Howard… ouch
Talk about reactionary sports fans! Holy cow!
What is PIGS in hockey analytics? Not sure what to make of this guys’ evaluation or how much weight it deserves. Mesar and Xhekaj both have a pretty respectable PPG in the CHL. I’ll withhold judgement until i see them in Laval
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Beck was considered a high bust potential this year until he got to work with Byron and elevated his game. Roy found another gear as well. Not ready to give up on Mesar just yet.
Puckspo?
Mesar stepped up at the WJC last year and was great, clutch and a top player on his squad. Whether or not he is a bust is years away, let’s try and cool down a bit.
I’m not holding my breath, but it’s **WAY** too early to worry about Mesar. Let’s see how he makes out in Laval. Not everyone follows the same linear development rate/path. He’s got a good hockey brain so I’m not stressed about it.
You probably can’t find 10 players in the entire CHL who create more high danger scoring opportunities than Mesar per zone entry.
Stats can be deceiving.
His heavily defensive deployment in Kitchener on the PK and Dzone starts are a testament to his shutdown abilities, especially for a smaller player.
I find it strange to praise Beck and knock Mesar for essentially playing similar roles and both doing very well at them. The only difference is Beck was drafted as a defensive fwd while Mesar was known for creative offense. It’s about development, not preconceived ideas about players who were drafted at 17/18.
Everyone needs to relax on the « we only drafted Mesar because he was Slaf’s buddy » nonsense.
We picked him 26th, McKenzie had him 30th, Dobber had him 20th, other rankings had him in that same ball park. It wasn’t like we went off the board with some crazy reach. He’s like starting year three of playing NA hockey in the A, imagine that, he played on a freaking soccer pitch-sized rink all his life and suddenly he’s getting bodied by men on a rink the size of my living room.
On s’calme les boys, c’t’encore tôt…
I can’t remember the last time I saw Corsi being mentioned somewhere. I thought this stat was gone.
Mesar with only 4 games tracked. Beck with 8. Sample size is way too small to make any conclusions.
I liked what I saw of him in camp. Strikes me as the type of guy that plays better with better players.
Player growth is not linear, and every player has a different curve.
Patience is a virtue.
Considering he’s already undersized I’m ready to almost write him off, luckily we landed Slaf, Beck and Hutson around him so it doesn’t hurt and they get a pass on Mesar.
Between the lack of size and progress and recent comments blaming his teammates, I don’t see much with him if anything at all
Mesar has been Hughes only L really
At the draft day, a lot of us wanted Kulich.
Late 1st round picks don’t always make it to the show. Chill people.
TBH chl doesnt mean much and I feel that he didnt want to play there. What matter is now, ahl/nhl, now if it doesnt work we might have to think that there was better pick but for now, it only speculation. Im still really high on Mesar and hopefully he can play with better player