It all started with his contract negotiations. That soured so many fans on him, he hasn’t ever recovered.
entityXD32
Well being an 11 million dollar winger in the cap era will do that
footwith4toes
Zach Bogosian is Paul Marner confirmed.
please_trade_marner
Because no other team spends anywhere NEAR as much money as the leafs do on their top 3 forwards. No where **NEAR**!!!!! It’s a flawed design in a hard cap league.
You keep Matthews for sure. Then you decide between Nylander and Marner. *Somebody* said that this should be handled BEFORE Marner’s nmc kicks in and you’d get a massive return. They even created their user name surrounding the topic. Don’t remember the felll’as name, but clearly one of the smartest people on the planet. And he was ignored. Tis a tragic tale.
Oh well, Let’s contineu losing in the first round due to lack of death because of 35-40 mil on top 3 forwards. ALL of whom under perform in the playoffs.
SeanPhixion
I get why everyone is, but I also think it’s over exaggerated. He’s still a fantastic player. But I think it started with the contract negotiations, then with his non-existent playoff performance. You mix those two things with an already frustrated fanbase and it was the perfect cocktail for Mitchy to become the whipping boy for all of Toronto’s playoff failures.
adwrx
Because he’s expensive and he doesn’t perform in the playoffs. He whines about everything.
91Caleb
That level of awareness is prob why bogosian never met his potential
MapleHoser
Oh, I understand why.
Cause he’s a ridiculously overpaid prima donna who disappears come playoff time.
lindseyblue2
He is my favorite player and I feel sad so many fans want to get rid of him. Everyone was loving him last season, then they lost to Boston and it’s all Mitch’s fault? Star players were sick, Florida would have lost too if they didn’t have Barkov and Bob healthy. Maple Leaf fans are so critical, I hope Mitch sticks around, would be hard to see him in some other team.
apartmen1
Keep moving the goalposts for these guys. There is no reason any team should ever run back the same losing core for 5 years straight. It’s unbelievable.
spazkay
Because he tried the spin-o-rama, behind the back, blind pass cross ice again.
TorturedFanClub
Zach Bogosian? Really? Who cares?
Raah1911
He got the assistant captain as part of his contract. Enough said
RedditLodgick
The only way you don’t understand why people give him shit is if you’ve buried your head in the sand the last several seasons. He may disagree with it, but I’m sure he understand exactly why.
apatheticboy
Way, way more criticism should be directed towards Dubas and Shanny. It’s not the player’s responsibility to make sure that the team is cap compliant or that they have room to sign depth guys. Dubas could’ve done more to get Marner under 10mil. They played chicken with Willy’s agent and his contract was incredible, why couldn’t they have dug their feet in with Mitch? Why didn’t they trade Mitch before his NMC kicked in?
MickeyPanaflex
Personally I hope he stays but I’m mostly curious why anyone is asking Zach Bogosian about Mitch Marner in 2024.
ffff2e7df01a4f889
He is correct. The entire team is mid during the playoffs and all anyone does is shit on Marner.
ThisJustInWoodwork
When he announced that he was going to treat RFA like UFA and go visit teams was the day I stopped cheering for this guy
sluck131
First was the contract negotiation, his agent was vocal with the media and then when it came out he basically was demanding Matthews contract it turned very negative.
Then after that he has failed to back up his contract. Fans really turned on him after his dismal performance vs Montreal.
This last series vs Boston was another example. With Matthews and Nylander battling injury he had the chance to prove he could lead a team. He once again failed to live up to his value.
mgyro
1. Playoff performance.
2. Playoff performance.
3. Being a hometown hero means there are several people still around who despise you and your dad bc u both were dbags coming up. Get a big contract. Okay. Rack up points in the league. Okay. Turtle in the playoffs? Again and again and again? What do u think is going to happen?
torontoker13
Go figure an out of touch borderline ahl d man that never lived up to his potential doesnt understand something.
Putting the contract negotiation where he held the leafs hostage for more money then he deserves aside.
My main reason for hating the guy is the vitriolic tone and response he has towards questions from the media. How bout the fact he has flat out said he doesn’t care what the fans think and they treat him as a god.
Has the most endorsements in the nhl yet doesn’t invite media to his hockey tournament so they can’t ask him questions.
Coward in the playoffs and just a disgusting individual imo just like his jealous dad
WintAndKidd
Hockey players are so completely out of touch it’s comical
Agreeable_Fix5608
It’s simple. Of their three superstars he’s the least cool and least likeable. Someone has to be hated and blamed. He gets the blame.
Reality ? Nylander bailed on half a series for who knows what. Then matthews bailed on two games when it looked like they were cooked down 3-1
Maybe nylander and Matthews hated the coach and ensured his firing. Who knows.
winkNfart
why do we care about zach bogosian, at all ??
nintendoleafsfan
Because we’ve achieved zero success while shelling out these big contracts, Willy and JT got spurred on by the fans and media too.
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The price of being a “god”
I mean, he’s right.
It all started with his contract negotiations. That soured so many fans on him, he hasn’t ever recovered.
Well being an 11 million dollar winger in the cap era will do that
Zach Bogosian is Paul Marner confirmed.
Because no other team spends anywhere NEAR as much money as the leafs do on their top 3 forwards. No where **NEAR**!!!!! It’s a flawed design in a hard cap league.
You keep Matthews for sure. Then you decide between Nylander and Marner. *Somebody* said that this should be handled BEFORE Marner’s nmc kicks in and you’d get a massive return. They even created their user name surrounding the topic. Don’t remember the felll’as name, but clearly one of the smartest people on the planet. And he was ignored. Tis a tragic tale.
Oh well, Let’s contineu losing in the first round due to lack of death because of 35-40 mil on top 3 forwards. ALL of whom under perform in the playoffs.
I get why everyone is, but I also think it’s over exaggerated. He’s still a fantastic player. But I think it started with the contract negotiations, then with his non-existent playoff performance. You mix those two things with an already frustrated fanbase and it was the perfect cocktail for Mitchy to become the whipping boy for all of Toronto’s playoff failures.
Because he’s expensive and he doesn’t perform in the playoffs. He whines about everything.
That level of awareness is prob why bogosian never met his potential
Oh, I understand why.
Cause he’s a ridiculously overpaid prima donna who disappears come playoff time.
He is my favorite player and I feel sad so many fans want to get rid of him. Everyone was loving him last season, then they lost to Boston and it’s all Mitch’s fault? Star players were sick, Florida would have lost too if they didn’t have Barkov and Bob healthy. Maple Leaf fans are so critical, I hope Mitch sticks around, would be hard to see him in some other team.
Keep moving the goalposts for these guys. There is no reason any team should ever run back the same losing core for 5 years straight. It’s unbelievable.
Because he tried the spin-o-rama, behind the back, blind pass cross ice again.
Zach Bogosian? Really? Who cares?
He got the assistant captain as part of his contract. Enough said
The only way you don’t understand why people give him shit is if you’ve buried your head in the sand the last several seasons. He may disagree with it, but I’m sure he understand exactly why.
Way, way more criticism should be directed towards Dubas and Shanny. It’s not the player’s responsibility to make sure that the team is cap compliant or that they have room to sign depth guys. Dubas could’ve done more to get Marner under 10mil. They played chicken with Willy’s agent and his contract was incredible, why couldn’t they have dug their feet in with Mitch? Why didn’t they trade Mitch before his NMC kicked in?
Personally I hope he stays but I’m mostly curious why anyone is asking Zach Bogosian about Mitch Marner in 2024.
He is correct. The entire team is mid during the playoffs and all anyone does is shit on Marner.
When he announced that he was going to treat RFA like UFA and go visit teams was the day I stopped cheering for this guy
First was the contract negotiation, his agent was vocal with the media and then when it came out he basically was demanding Matthews contract it turned very negative.
Then after that he has failed to back up his contract. Fans really turned on him after his dismal performance vs Montreal.
This last series vs Boston was another example. With Matthews and Nylander battling injury he had the chance to prove he could lead a team. He once again failed to live up to his value.
1. Playoff performance.
2. Playoff performance.
3. Being a hometown hero means there are several people still around who despise you and your dad bc u both were dbags coming up. Get a big contract. Okay. Rack up points in the league. Okay. Turtle in the playoffs? Again and again and again? What do u think is going to happen?
Go figure an out of touch borderline ahl d man that never lived up to his potential doesnt understand something.
Putting the contract negotiation where he held the leafs hostage for more money then he deserves aside.
My main reason for hating the guy is the vitriolic tone and response he has towards questions from the media. How bout the fact he has flat out said he doesn’t care what the fans think and they treat him as a god.
Has the most endorsements in the nhl yet doesn’t invite media to his hockey tournament so they can’t ask him questions.
Coward in the playoffs and just a disgusting individual imo just like his jealous dad
Hockey players are so completely out of touch it’s comical
It’s simple. Of their three superstars he’s the least cool and least likeable. Someone has to be hated and blamed. He gets the blame.
Reality ? Nylander bailed on half a series for who knows what. Then matthews bailed on two games when it looked like they were cooked down 3-1
Maybe nylander and Matthews hated the coach and ensured his firing. Who knows.
why do we care about zach bogosian, at all ??
Because we’ve achieved zero success while shelling out these big contracts, Willy and JT got spurred on by the fans and media too.