Plus de négativité aujourd’hui.
De toute évidence, Brodeur a remporté le prix du meilleur Devil de tous les temps et puisque c’est la semaine des gardiens de but, assurez-vous d’argumenter dans chaque fil ou forum qui le mentionne où quelqu’un remet en question sa grandeur.
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Imsorrymanyt
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David Hale
That guy fuckin blew.
There was always that year of John hayden
Someone should pull up a game day thread from like 7 years ago for this one
I hate to submit anyone because guys like Zharkov, Tedenby, and Josefson are all world class athletes and hockey players even if they couldn’t cut it in the NHL.
So I’m going to submit Nick Palmieri who spent half a season centering Kovalchuk in 2010-11.
We had Jordin Tootoo playing #1 PP minutes because he was « a right-hand shot »
Damien Brunner
Steve Bernier.
It’s been 12 years and I still haven’t lived down his penalty in Game 6. I know he was mostly a 4th line guy, and odds were against us in that final, but there was still hope…right up until he decided to take it away.
Nikita Gusev.
He got top line minutes, top PP time, and he couldn’t even skate.
I’m 40 years old and have been watching this team for over 30 years. Nikita Gusev is the worst player I’ve ever seen in the NHL.
Ryane Clowe.
The right answer is probably a player from awhile ago we can’t remember. Or an enforcer. I would say Eric Boulton…or someone similar.
I don’t think Holtz is any where near the most overrated. Seems like sour grapes about a pick that didn’t work out that was highly touted. Sure he wasn’t the right fit for this team, but let’s see if he can turn into a serviceable player that will never truly live up to his draft number.
There have been plenty of players from the Mickey Mouse years as Gretzky used to call it, that would be ahead of Holtz.
For context, I was very hopeful based on the scouting reports, but the skating and being part of a couple of bad years in New Jersey didn’t do his development any favors.
Michael Grabner fucking sucked.
I can’t tell if “top 3 line minutes” means it has to be a forward or is just meant to exclude fourth line plugs. But if any position is eligible, Jon Gillies inspired less confidence than any other player I can remember watching.
I know it was an injury and age thing but man, Michael Ryder should be up there. If he ever had enough time to use his shot, he was alright; trouble is that seemed to be every 20-30 games or so and there was just nothing else he could contribute otherwise.
Micheal Ryder
Kenny Agostino
Grabner or Clowe
Tuomu Ruutu for me.
Krys Barch
Yeah, I’m going with Grabner too.
Clowe and Gusev definitely get honorable mentions.
Mattias Tedenby.
Clowe or Ryder or Grabner
Y’all are forgetting folks like Tyler Kennedy, Jean-Sébastien Dea, and Beau Bennett.
Edit: Peter Harrold just dug himself up from my forgotten memories too.
To lend some data to this discussion, I pulled the lowest P/60 of any forwards to ever play on the Devils, min 40 games to filter out guys who just stopped in for a cup of coffee. Not sure how we qualify top 3 lines, but if TOI is an indicator, then Sergei Kalinen might be the guy?
Rk | Name | GP | TOI | G/60 | A/60 | P/60
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1 | Eric Boulton | 51 | 6:35 | 0 | 0 | 0
5 | Cam Janssen | 171 | 4:32 | 0.309| 0.077| 0.386
6 | Adam Mair | 65 | 9:05 | 0.102| 0.305| 0.406
7 | Tim Sestito | 100 | 9:53 | 0 | 0.485| 0.485
11 | John Hayden | 43 | 9:42 | 0.431| 0.144| 0.574
14 | Mike Sislo | 42 | 11:11| 0.383| 0.255| 0.639
15 | Nick Lappin | 60 | 11:53| 0.421| 0.252| 0.673
16 | Stefan Matteau | 44 | 10:01| 0.408| 0.272| 0.681
17 | Sergei Kalinin | 121 | 13:08| 0.377| 0.34 | 0.717
19 | Rod Pelley | 211 | 9:43 | 0.205| 0.556| 0.76
24 | Tuomo Ruutu | 129 | 11:42| 0.397| 0.476| 0.873
25 | Stephen Gionta | 270 | 12:29| 0.267| 0.623| 0.89
26 | Arron Asham | 77 | 8:33 | 0.546| 0.364| 0.911
27 | Jimmy Vesey | 68 | 14:25| 0.489| 0.428| 0.917
29 | Vladimir Zharkov | 82 | 11:04| 0.132| 0.793| 0.925
31 | Jim McKenzie | 196 | 7:37 | 0.361| 0.602| 0.963
33 | Jordin Tootoo | 134 | 10:59| 0.571| 0.408| 0.978
35 | Kevin Rooney | 95 | 12:02| 0.524| 0.472| 0.996
36 | Jacob Josefson | 276 | 12:54| 0.303| 0.707| 1.011
37 | Ryan Carter | 171 | 11:26| 0.521| 0.491| 1.012
38 | Erik Rasmussen | 207 | 9:23 | 0.463| 0.556| 1.019
40 | Jiri Bicek | 62 | 11:33| 0.502| 0.586| 1.088
41 | Rob Niedermayer | 71 | 16:48| 0.503| 0.603| 1.106
42 | Drew Stafford | 116 | 13:05| 0.514| 0.593| 1.107
43 | Michael Rupp | 289 | 8:34 | 0.556| 0.556| 1.113
44 | Igor Larionov | 49 | 12:05| 0.101| 1.013| 1.114
45 | Joey Anderson | 52 | 13:00| 0.709| 0.443| 1.153
46 | Bobby Farnham | 50 | 9:28 | 1.014| 0.253| 1.267
47 | Dean McAmmond | 62 | 12:51| 0.602| 0.677| 1.28
48 | Beau Bennett | 65 | 13:33| 0.545| 0.749| 1.293
49 | Mattias Tedenby | 120 | 11:28| 0.436| 0.872| 1.308
50 | Devante Smith-Pelly | 71 | 14:02| 0.723| 0.602| 1.325
There’s some other dudes under 40gp that might still be worthy of mentioning. Cam Janssen, Vern Fiddler, Jiri Tlusty, Marian Studenic, John Quenneville
Tedenby. Was a first round pick that was hyped up, but accomplished nothing.
Gotta be a 1980’s era player, but for what most of us can remember, it’s IMO Tuomo Ruutu. His offensive production was barely even good enough for a 4th liner, but he was almost always on the 2nd line due to have miserable those Devils teams were.