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À quel point une sélection HORRIBLE a coûté une Coupe Stanley aux Canucks !



Le 22 avril 2012, Dan Hamhuis a trébuché au centre de la glace. Jarret Stoll a récupéré la rondelle et en un clin d’œil, la saison des Canucks était terminée. Leur fenêtre de compétition s’est refermée. Il n’y avait aucune vague de jeunes joueurs en route pour aider les Sedins, Burrows, Bieksa et Luongo. Dans cette vidéo, je reviens sur le terrible repêchage qui a mené à ce point.

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  1. In real time, that Hodgson trade was beyond terrible, he was having a good season but behind the scenes Gillis and AV didn't like Hodgsons Dad meddling in team affairs which I do agree with but you have to upped his trade value and we needed him in the play offs especially since Kassian was scratched for most of the games in the LA series lol. Hodgson was primed for a good play off run especially since he was playing behind Kesler and Hank, he was in a perfect spot in terms of match ups. Playing against 3rd pairing d men, we were in heaven thought for sure he would be the missing piece that would take us over the top. He was scoring big goals down the stretch before trade deadline with key goals against Boston and Chicago. Trade made absolutely no sense, they should have traded him in the off season. We got peanuts on the dollar for the kid.

  2. I've been following the Canucks religiously since 1990. Terrible drafting wasn't just a Benning Era thing or a Gillis Era thing or even a Burke/Nonis Era thing. It goes way back. I've seen the picks from the 80s, too. One bust or mediocre player at best after another in the first round. Pat Quinn is known for drafting Bure, Linden and Ohlund. Outside of that, it's Bust City. Sandlak and Antoski became NHL players, but for 1st round picks, they were basically 3rd line enforcers at best. The Canucks absolutely dropped the ball when it came to finding an elite winger for the Sedins, but going back to Pavel Bure, who could score 60 goals and 100 points basically on his own, Quinn couldn't find a playmaking centre for him either. I believe he played a bit with Linden and Running, but in 1994 I think he was playing with Murray Craven as his centre. No offence to Craven, who a decent playmaking centre, but he was never elite. Larionov was the closest thing in Pavel's rookie year, and he was gone by the end of the season because he didn't want money going back to Russia and ended up in San Jose. I remember when Rick Girard, a prospect, was considered a potential centre for him. Rick who? Exactly.

  3. I recall those years and being frustrated at what seemed like every team had a great new rookie come up, and Canucks had zero!
    Bad drafting has been a canucks staple forever.
    We still suck at drafting D too (Hughes aside). Time will tell on Willander and D Petey!

  4. Boston was also allowed to completely injure all the canucks with 0 punishment

  5. Better than the Bruins in 2015… if they’d selected the guy after their pick with their picks, they would’ve been set (with the exception of next pick after Carlo being Paul Bittner)

  6. Mike Gillis era drafting was so bad, probably the worst of any tenure I have witnessed. Yet, he kept all his first round picks and prospects at the Trade Deadline every year and we never went after the big names (like we did with Lindholm) from 2009-2012. We could've traded our first rond picks + prospects like Hodgson/Schroeder (both had value in the 2010, 2011 seasons) to add more pieces to the line up to push us over the top. I am most frustrated is, he doesn't draft well, but always kept all the picks and prospects that eventually became busts.

    And at the 2010 draft, when he moved out a first round pick, he acquired Keith Ballard, who couldn't get out of AV's dog house and was an eventual buy-out candidate. He had a $4.2 million caphit and was sitting in the pressbox a lot of nights. He eventually became a buyout candidate in the 2013 off-season. The 2010-11 season had a salary cap of $59.4 million. That's 7% of our cap space allocated to a palyer our coach refused to play. That money could've gotten us another top 6 forward or a top 4 defenseman that the coach would actually play. In fact, could've spent that money to ice a NHL calibre 4th line instead of having to play Victor Oreskovich, Alexandre Bolduc etc. on our 4th line that season.

    The 2010-11 season was loved by the fans and brought us a lot of great memories. However, our 4th line for that season was pretty much a bunch of AHLers playing about 7-8 minutes a night as filters (though we had agruably the most stacked top 3 lines in the league by a large margin).

    Anyways, back on the topic of poor drafting. With how bad Gillis drafted, we should've traded our first round pick every deadline from 2009-2012 and add another top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman to make a run at the cup. Because, those picks wound up being absolutely nothing. If you have poor drafting and you are a contending team, trade those picks for assets to help push you to the top.

    This is extremely frustrating situation to look back to in hindsight. And after Benning took over, the one thing in his tenure he exceled at was at the draft table. But he constantly trades away our higher mid-round picks for tweeners when the team is no longer near the level of a contender. The GM should've kept the picks to rebuild trades away draft picks; the GM who is a terrible at the draft with a contending team kept more picks than he should've.

  7. great video, subbed….. fuck off with those random black dots on the images though… well actually, i guess my monitor thanks you for the cleaning

  8. i believe that if mikael sammuelsson hadn't been sidelined for the final and kesler's hip hadn't given out the canucks would have won the cup so i don't actually agree with you. they built a cup winner but you need luck on your side as well.

  9. The 2011 canucks had a core mostly made up of draft picks from before the 2005 lockout. Sedins 1999, Bieksa 2001, Kesler 2003, Edler and Hansen 2004, hell they even got Burrows undrafted. Just amazing value on picks and signings yet none of that was working after the lockout. Problem is, most of these players were at their peak and everything after would be downhill.

  10. Patrick White was used as a trade chip for Ehrhoff. They could have traded a 1st round pick from draft 2007 – 2012 for roster help that could have gave more depth to the canucks playoff runs that could of potentially led to a cup.

  11. You did a good job putting this video together, but man was it depressing. I didn’t realize the Nucks had zero draft picks that ever played an NHL game in the years you mentioned. I sure hope all of us Canucks faithful can finally stop holding our collective breath and finally cheer for them winning the cup soon.

  12. In the same "no support" category , Price played without a 80 points player in front of him for nearly 15 years lol.

  13. It is amazing how great we would be as general managers with the benefit of ten years hindsight. Every team in the league would win the cup every year.

  14. Nothing new here, Vancouver has the worst draft record in NHL history when you go through their year by year pics from 1970 to current year.

  15. Great vid. Small thing, Kyle Palmieri is a winger and absolutely wouldn't of been a good Kesler replacement as a result haha

  16. In a way the sedins themselves caused this. Ever since they arrived the organization bent over backwards for them (never demoting them in the early days when they weren't producing and never taking them off the same line even for one period). Then when they started producing that left no space for prospects to aspire to and the organization placed no emphasis on giving the kids an honest look because it was always about catering to the sedins.

  17. I loathe no team more than the canucks and I don’t really know why. As a calgarian I did not despise them this much in the old days with the black and yellow and I was a Bure fan, but I just can’t pinpoint why I hate the team. It just feels like old toilet paper. Is anyone else experiencing this feeling ?

  18. Oilers fan here, loved seeing Vancouver lose in 2011…. And in 2023!… soooo, quit trash talking the oilers, we are getting the Stanley cup 2025 :3 …. Also…. You can’t shock the nhl anymore, nucks with a bullseye on them cause they shocked the entire league, that’s just a one off

  19. If PK Subban and Alex Adler were on the same line we would have had more turnovers than ever both of them known for making stupid turnovers PK Subban would have made Adler worse and Alex Adler would have made PK Subban worse not only that PK Subban wasn't tough enough and his career fell apart pretty easily once he hit 29

  20. I've always wondered why the Canucks contender window wasn't longer. Now I know. Great video!

  21. Vancouver wouldn’t have made it past the stars let alone the Oilers keep dreaming. Oilers tied the series 2 goals away from the Cup shut the F&@k up.

  22. they came just 1 win short in 2011 so saying that that bad drafting cost them the cup is kind of a stretch. Yes their draft record was sketchy but in the early 2010s, they were one of the biggest faces in the league given they had come just 1 win short of the cup and pulled off a rare feat of winning 2 straight presidents trophies in both 2011 and 2012

  23. still blubbering over the picks from 12 years ago. As is people can know how a draft pick will pan out before they've ever played a game….lol too funny

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