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Cusp. On the cusp…ffs.
If the problem was that the Canucks wouldn’t let NY talk to Miller about a contract that would be so stupid. What’s the problem with letting Miller talk to the teams about an extension? If the team doesn’t like the contract they don’t do the trade, but if they aren’t allowed to talk about an extension they won’t do the trade anyway so what’s the problem???? It makes no sense, we could have a trade done but our stupid management team is playing hardball on issues that don’t exist.
At this point I don't believe he gets moved before the deadline. This is going to get toxic, quick.
I would love to see JT playing with Kirill and Zuc!
Lol Dave Babych 88… love it…best cameo of the video
They need to trade him. I doubt the Canucks will be able to extend Miller this off season, even if they want to. They're far apart it's not gonna happen unless they trade at least Myers, probably Pearson also. So if that occurs, an already porous D will be even worse, theyll have Travis Dermott starting the season as a top 4 D when hes clearly not a top 4 calibre D, they'll have a declining OEL on top 4 and probably an aging Luke Schenn playing a full season when at this point he should get about 40 games.They will have absolutely no cap space to improve that defense if they sign Miller. They will go into the season with at least 2 of Burroughs, Rathbone and probably Juulsen as regulars (if Poolman's concussion issues continue). That is a scary thought. You know if Demko goes down for any length of time the seasons a right off- Miller or not. Maybe a good thing for next year's draft!
The problem with this whole situation is that we are talking about things that are rumours and speculation. We don’t have the actual facts. The only thing I’ve heard Allvin say is that he doesn’t want to trade him.
Islanders need to make a trade for 1st line winger or wait for free agents, which seems to be the plan. Otherwise why would lou take any risk on a less expensive d man when he could have gone out a got a Better puck moving defensemen but the reason being he needs the space to sign dobson and money for that first line winger. Isles are in win now mode and there window is closing as most core pieces are getting older.
if miller produces next season, the canucks may have to sit down and sign him long term or he will be gone for nothing. miller has another year on his contract, J R was right to not let lou talk to millers agent.
I wouldn’t make a deal for a pending free agent if I couldn’t negotiate a long term deal for his services.Why give up assets for a player who can bolt after one season?Unless you think that is the player needed to get your team to the promised land.Then you might consider that move.
Allvin and Rutherford are completely batching this whole situation and it's becoming slightly worrying
If Lou nixed the deal last minute. How is it possible for MTL to conduct not one (NYI) but a second (CHI) trades last minute. Normally 3 way trades take a long time to hash out. Maybe the Miller deal has nothing to do with No.13 pick.
Coulda had Nazar with this pick
Allvin is worse than Benning. Benning would have gotten at least a second rounder for JT.
The island is also full of NYR Faithful!
Barzel included in this package Dobson and 13 picked B,C Boy Barzel
I wouldn’t trade Miller it’s better for the team we won’t make the ploffs any time soon without Miller plus I don’t want to see our top 6 broken
man can you can the verbiage and just get to the frikken point—-way way way too frustrating style
Collected a lot of info here! Thanks for the rundown… But I wonder, as Isles ended up getting Romanov, maybe alternatively, it was Myers who was involved in the deal? No one has even hinted this, as there is such a hard-on for Miller trade talk. But I think that Myers is actually the BIG (pardon the pun) piece that Vancouver may be wanting to move. It would make more sense overall (assuming they can get another 3~4 d-man at 1/3 ~ 1/2 the price of that albatross of a contract Benning left The 'nucks with in Myers… ???
I don't agree with that at all. They 100% can go to the trade deadline. As long as you have at least 2 teams who are interested it doesn't matter if they have leverage against the Canucks because they are also bidding against each other. And with that in mind he'll still get good value. Now of course that is taking the gamble that he stays healthy and stays productive. But that's always a gamble. The guy could get hurt in the off season and you have the same sorts of issues. Frankly I think the smartest play is getting as much out of the player as you can before you move him. And that means keeping him right up too the deadline. He's not a guy that only one team will be interested in. He's a guy that every playoff team will be interested in. And anyone who's just outside who's trying to make up the difference and squeak in would also be interested in.
I truly hate these no trade clauses in many NHL contracts…they're bad for the competitive balance of the league… how these below average players like Matt Murray can put the kibosh on a trade that can bolster a team like Buffalo… that has missed the playoffs for 11 consecutive yrs really is counter productive to the good of the league as a whole
Isles fans are now certain that the following took place…Isles were shopping the pick that was a certainty…Montreal was very interested but Vancouver also wanted to move up…Montreal initially was asking too much for Romanov so Lamoriello let them simmer….Friedman got wind that Vancouver wanted to move up and since the Islanders were moving the pick he started to extrapolate…Montreal calls Lou back and lowers the ask and now a deal is in place…Friedman now needs to backpedal so the "deal died at the table" gets shoved out the door. The saying with reporters has always been "If your not first..Your last". Friedman should have come out looking like an idiot but nobody was motivated to rub his nose in the mess. Close call.
In Vancouver we trade our best players and don't reward them! But we do reward under achievers who have sub par years with over priced contracts and hope they grow into them. in Vancouver we have big dreams of one day having a power house cup team but we also love being excited like kids on Christmas morning when we trade our best players for all the wonderful possibilities. maybe we will draft the next jt miller and cale makar and austin mathews and mcdavid and they will all come up from abbotsford at the same time and we will still have plenty of cap room because they will all be rookies making league minimum .
As a Wings fan, I'm hoping we can get in on the JT Miller action. After all StevieY's moves, the icing on the cake could be a Bertuzzi/Zadina trade for a proven >40 goal threat, and I think JT could fit in well with our new crew. Ideally, we'd go for a Kaprizov, but he's got political baggage to fix in Russia, so JT and Kreider would be my ideal of the star power we need to take us to contention.
if you want to know what jt miller thinks of playing in vancouver, watch John Scott |dropping the Gloves, aug 12, 2022.