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IMHO the foundation of the Sharks isn't structurally sound to build a Cup-winning team. As a fan, I'd rather see some miserable seasons where they acquire the assets to rebuild that foundation than have mediocre seasons where the foundation isn't restored. I hope Grier is a major seller this season and this team truly is rebuilt from the ground up. Trading away good players that don't fit in your future plans is one way to insure you don't do well.
I think with some young talent in Eklund, Bordeleau, Coe (potentially), matched with someone like a Bedard or Fantilli with the added veterans of Meier, Hertl, Couture, we could potentially have a scary top 6 pretty fast. I understand the competitive nature of the players and the fact that they ethically should try to play well. But as a realistic fan who knows there will be no cup this year, I will be cheering for that #1 pick.
Good luck out tanking the Coyotes
If the Sharks leave the 2023 with one of Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, or Carlsson it’s a big win. Losing now and acquiring a top pick in the draft is the best chance they have at acquiring an elite talent that can make them competitive in the future (notice I said chance). This, as opposed to being consistently mediocre, is preferable. No one wants to watch a team end up in no man’s land year over year (too bad to compete for trophy or playoffs, not bad enough to acquire cheap elite talent). To me, that doesn’t do well for business. The worst thing I can say about this team right now is that they are boring. They are a collection of veterans who will either be traded at the deadline or will remain and see us safely into no man’s land.
I don’t buy the competitive player aspect either. Players will always compete hard even on bad teams cause there is a chance they could be move to contenders. At the very least, they are playing to keep an NHL job.
Hey Brodie, great video. Just wanted to add that the last place team in the league has an 18.5% chance of winning the lottery but a 25.5% chance of picking first overall. Teams can only move up 10 spots so 12-16 would not be able to draft first overall.
Honestly since we traded our best defenseman and like you reported before everyone should be on the trade block. The reality is you will never be able to trade for a generational talent. Also I don't think many good players around the league would be excited to join this team. It's tuff as a fan I'm always trying to find the positives but the reality is through and through the team is mid at best. What I would like to see is our big contract player play up to their potential and possibly get the attention of a contending team that could potentially put them over the top. I really do feel by the time this team is great again we will have a completely new and young team. As far as the business side of it I will always be a sharks fan. Although I have nearly zero desire to go to a game this year. I'd rather go to a cuda game to be honest. It's not like they lower ticket prices when the team isn't doing well. So I don't know how profitable being a team that will miss the playoffs for many more seasons and just flounder around in the bottom third of the league will be for them. That's going to be up to the ownership and the gm.
Thanks, Brodie, for the personalized response to me! I understand your points completely – nobody wants to tell a team to "tank" and no professional players are where they are without possessing the drive and determination to give it their all every night and do everything they can for the "W". That said, it seems that keeping a few key pieces on the Barracuda or under contract in other leagues without bringing them up to the big club seems to be the way the team is heading this year, and then let the puck bounce wherever it may and we wil see how things shake out. 18.5% is certainly a guarantee of nothing, but it's the best shot there is! A few key trades to stockpile some draft picks in the next couple of years sounds like a good idea to me as well.
Oh one more thing…
You said that sports franchise owners don't want to do anything to alienate their fans or lose money…but I beg to differ. There is a Bay Area owner who over the past 6 months just dis-proved this theory (and you certainly have first-hand knowledge of this…) and his name is John Fisher.
The idea that one player is going to be a magic bullet to turn a team around is ridiculous. And would you want that anyway? What happens if they get injured in game 1 and they're out for half the season? It's a team sport, folks. Quit swooning over this one dude like he's the magical hockey messiah. Even if we did end up with him, he can't play 60 minutes every night or play every position at once. Take it from a pilot. You do not want a single point of failure in a system. Right, Brodie? I'd much rather see them organically build a well rounded, robust team than acquire one superstar player. And I definitely would lose a lot of respect for the organization if they phoned it in for the next few years to try and get it.
Tanking is funny. So many fans want to see their team tank. But would those same fans continue buying tickets to watch a tanking team? Of course not. It's very hypocritical.
There's no guarantee a first overall pick will actually change a franchise (recent examples: Oilers before McDavid, Sabres with Eichel). There's also no guarantee to actually get the 1st overall pick. Being the worst team in the league essentially just guarantees you the 4th overall.
Retooling is the way to go. Many teams have done it. The Sharks already have a core.
Because tanking in a draft lottery era is the crucial step for success. Ask the Buffalo Sabres. How is that Jack Eichel doing for them?
You wanna know what would bring Sharks fans back? Connor Bedard in teal. It would show the franchise has a future to look forward to. Right now, it just had old players with bad contracts. Embrace the rebuild.
Whoever finishes last is guaranteed to pick 3rd. So you're guaranteed Carlsson or Michkov at worst. Sabres finished last on purpose in 2015 to guarantee themselves Eichel at worst under those lottery rules. Penguins finished last and guaranteed themselves Malkin at worst in 2004.
I’d we finish bottom 3, we’re getting #1. NHL is gonna tilt the ice for us.
Sharks fans must not get caught thinking they will win the lottery and the draft will solve the problems, if only the team does as poorly as possible this season. The draft, and "generational talent" super hockey players, are insufficient means to become a Stanley Cup contender. Sharks management must improve how it drafts and trades draft picks, scout undrafted players, find scoring and special teams players to fill in gaps and roles on the team, make better trades and use cap space better, or do many different things to turn the team around. It is purely wishful thinking and a fallacy in your hockey IQ to think that by losing more now and self-sabotage, this team will win more in the future.
Keeping prospects on the Barracuda so that they will develop properly will also make this team develop slower. Life in the fast lane of the NHL development process does not exist. Teams rise and fall like daily bread offerings. I enjoy an NHL with much more parity and competition, so it makes those whose teams appear to be unbeatable on paper recognize the reality of actually playing on the ice and dealing with puck luck and luck with refereeing calls also (or bias, which never goes away in human judgment in reality). The task of assembling a cast for contending the Stanley Cup is huge and involves getting 6 star forwards, 3 excellent defencemen, 1 top 10 goalie in the league, a great coach who enhances team chemistry, and then 10 or more key role players who fill in the team and make it a complex hockey performance machine.
Focus on the irrational factors which are not under any human control like luck and injuries so that whatever rational plan of action Mike Grier develops as he adapts to this seasons punches and knock outs will be put into context. Only so much can be planned or reasoned out, the rest is more entertaining any ways and is the result of the unpredictable nature of sports. Will Sharks fans halt the negative reflex reactions and learn some patience and let MG adapt to the season as it unfolds organically?
I kind of love that you respectfully said the thing so many armchair GMs never really like to admit: nobody is trying to fail. You can sort of angle it, but in turn, sacrificing the careers of employees.
Like, look at Arizona. That is a team kind of set up to fail. But they keep winning games. At no point is anyone going to tell Keller or Crouse or Ghost to stop scoring. If anything, if the team wants to tank, this just makes these guys more valuable to move at the deadline. And if the yotes end up last, they can still be happy with the successes they do achieve during the season. Same with the Sharks. Let's celebrate EK65 looking like he's back to form, and Sturm having a stellar beginning to the season. Svechnikov absolutely earning a spot on the roster. And the Barracuda looking really great so far. Really well said.
Other than draft and develop well. We need to save cap and go all in Auston Matthews who is UFA soon. Make him the highest paid player, and usher in a new era of respectable hockey in San Jose.
I dont see how you can support a tank as a fan. there have just been too many cinderella stories in sports for me to not believe that there could be a chance every season. the same goes for this season too, its still so early — weren't the blues in last place at some point the year they won the stanley cup? and its funny how little confidence sharks fans have in draft picks outside of the top 5, especially when one of the best players in franchise history was 205th overall