All I know is that Rutherford doesn’t know what the age curve is, and that’s a bit worrisome.
Horvat is perfect for a Stanley Cup contender. He is peaking at the wrong time for the Canucks.
EDIT: Here is an article from a writer covering the Red Wings. One of his suggestions, which should be batshit crazy from the perspective of the Red Wings, is Horvat for Marco Kasper(8th overall 2022, playing center in SHL, has 10 points in 15 games, projects as a very good top 6 center) and William Wallinder(Dman, 32nd overall in 2020 draft, also playing in SHL, doing well).
I’m still huffing the hopium that the JT Miller re-signing is a sign and trade and management is just waiting for the TDL for teams to get desperate…
Unit_731_Survivor
Or trade boeser
nite_awol
Just trade Garland and Boeser
g0kartmozart
What team would trade for Miller with that contract?
Almost impossible to even put a value on him. He’s good right now so he can help a contender, but most contenders can’t afford his next contract without moving a younger and/or better player out.
IMO he’s worth maybe a 2nd round pick right now. A 1st if we take a cap dump back.
Any-Representative25
Ryan is so wrong.
ProfitMuhammad
If you’re trading Miller, you need to temper expectations.
What you’d be looking at is something like..
TO DALLAS
– JT Miller – 8×8, locked up until 2029-2030
3rd Round Pick
4th round Pick
TO VAN
– Jamie Benn – 9.5 x 3, locked up until 2024-2025
2nd Round pick (Conditional pick, if Dallas makes it to the finals, or JT performs at a certain level the 2nd becomes a 1st)
—
Benn becomes our 3rd line C, adds some team toughness and size down the middle. We would have to shed a little more cash short term, but shed 5 years off Millers term.
Dallas sheds money now to make a playoff push, and get a player who can produce significantly more than Benn right now. Keeps their window open for playoff pushes.
CartoonistWeary3399
Sell the team
_Canuckle
JT Miller literally has negative value right now considering his age, contract and play so far this season, IMO. I would still look to move him at some point this season but that seems super unlikely
RubiconXJ
I think T Shirt guy had a good point, he just got too angry to articulate it well. How are we going to rebuild when we’re already to the cap with underperforming players? Sure we can sell on Horvat, but he alone isn’t a rebuild. Most other players will either get an underwhelming return, or we would need to pay to get rid of.
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All I know is that Rutherford doesn’t know what the age curve is, and that’s a bit worrisome.
Horvat is perfect for a Stanley Cup contender. He is peaking at the wrong time for the Canucks.
EDIT: Here is an article from a writer covering the Red Wings. One of his suggestions, which should be batshit crazy from the perspective of the Red Wings, is Horvat for Marco Kasper(8th overall 2022, playing center in SHL, has 10 points in 15 games, projects as a very good top 6 center) and William Wallinder(Dman, 32nd overall in 2020 draft, also playing in SHL, doing well).
https://thehockeywriters.com/red-wings-trade-pieces-acquire-canucks-horvat/
Minnesota media doing their own « reckless speculation »(their own words) about Horvat too
https://twitter.com/SKORNorth/status/1588307786320019456
I’m still huffing the hopium that the JT Miller re-signing is a sign and trade and management is just waiting for the TDL for teams to get desperate…
Or trade boeser
Just trade Garland and Boeser
What team would trade for Miller with that contract?
Almost impossible to even put a value on him. He’s good right now so he can help a contender, but most contenders can’t afford his next contract without moving a younger and/or better player out.
IMO he’s worth maybe a 2nd round pick right now. A 1st if we take a cap dump back.
Ryan is so wrong.
If you’re trading Miller, you need to temper expectations.
What you’d be looking at is something like..
TO DALLAS
– JT Miller – 8×8, locked up until 2029-2030
3rd Round Pick
4th round Pick
TO VAN
– Jamie Benn – 9.5 x 3, locked up until 2024-2025
2nd Round pick (Conditional pick, if Dallas makes it to the finals, or JT performs at a certain level the 2nd becomes a 1st)
—
Benn becomes our 3rd line C, adds some team toughness and size down the middle. We would have to shed a little more cash short term, but shed 5 years off Millers term.
Dallas sheds money now to make a playoff push, and get a player who can produce significantly more than Benn right now. Keeps their window open for playoff pushes.
Sell the team
JT Miller literally has negative value right now considering his age, contract and play so far this season, IMO. I would still look to move him at some point this season but that seems super unlikely
I think T Shirt guy had a good point, he just got too angry to articulate it well. How are we going to rebuild when we’re already to the cap with underperforming players? Sure we can sell on Horvat, but he alone isn’t a rebuild. Most other players will either get an underwhelming return, or we would need to pay to get rid of.
We’ve made our bed, now we need to lay in it.