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25 Comments

  1. Of course McDavid wasn’t offside, couldn’t the review officials tell he was controlling the puck with his mind?

  2. Liam it's been how many hours and you still don't know the definition. If McDavid has control after his skates cross the leading edge of the blue line. Come onnnn

  3. Yes, he had possession and control of the puck while crossing over. He only lost it after both he and the puck had fully crossed the line.

  4. It’s insane someone can put them self offside bringing the puck into the O zone. Think about that for a moment.

    Rules need to be worded simpler. NHL do better. The explanation also needs to be better. Not in control isn’t good enough. Be specific.

    The rule requires incorporating the full definition of possession and control of the puck. Control is open to interpretation and therefore not good enough. If they want it to mean stick touching puck then say that. Propelling is the choice of words used. The rule also says once the skates cross the line. Anything passed that exact moment doesn’t matter. Made it in the zone with the puck. No where does it say he must be the next player to touch it. The spirit of the rule was to avoid having your teammate getting ahead of the play in the O zone. But somehow we’ve degraded semantics into a win gets called back because a player put himself off-side bringing a puck into the O zone. What’s the point of playing? This is so stupid. Rules mean nothing.

  5. No he wasn’t at all. League just completely dicked us out of a point. The St. Louis coaches and players were literally starting to leave the bench after the goal.

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    Clearly not in control of the puck. He isn't touching the puck or propelling it forward across the line. He never touches it with his stick again until the circle.

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  7. This “puck on stick” as a distinction between possession and not just over complicates things. How a player carries the puck into the O zone shouldn’t be an issue at all as long as none of his teammates precedes him. Simplify the damn rule, so everyone knows how to play.

  8. Nothing to debate. The rules say that a player is onside so long as they have control and possession of the puck before their SKATE crosses the line. Whether or not O'Reilly caused McDavid to lose control of the puck is EXPLICITLY irrelevant. That interaction not only happens after McDavid's skate crosses the line, but also after the PUCK crosses the line. This is objectively the wrong call. If you genuinely believe that McDavid didn't have control of the puck before crossing the line, then your dishonesty has caused you to lose your reasoning abilities.

  9. It's pretty black and white….don't enter the zone BEFORE the puck. What does he expect? "Special privileges"? What a pompous spoiled entitled waste of 100 million dollars over 8 years. TRADE him while everybody still thinks he is worth half a team just on his own. can't afford a defense, can't buy an offense, can't afford a good goalie, can't buy a good coach…..My curse of the Oilers is still complete. May the Oilers NEVER MAKE IT TO THE FINALS until Katz pays back the money that the City of Edmonton and it's taxpayers paid (400 million $) to help with the arena.

  10. He is CLEARLY in the O zone and the puck is CLEARLY NOT in the O zone…. text book offside.

  11. They really just need to make a clear simple rule that no one on your team can cross the blue line before the puck does. None of this control stuff up to interpretation. Cause the league is picking and choosing favorites. This was an L take by the league. But they should just change the rule

  12. kuzy and mcdavid's play is definitely not the same because there was no one there to take away the puck from kuzy. Kuzy is more clear-cut: McDavid's play could get called either way, and there's a good argument for both calls.
    – McDavid at 1:38 kinda loses the puck and goes from his stick area to between his leg area.
    – Other way is the momentum of the puck was doing with the direction of him skating and he was just doing a move/dangle/shift which makes it looks like he is losing the puck. I'm not really explaining it right but hopefully you get the point.

  13. Explain to me why this is about the puck possession… His skates are clearly over the blue line when the puck is not. The rule is clear and simple: the puck has to cross the line before any player does. He is clearly offside. With this logic any dump and chase should be considered offside. Why does hockey have to become "complicated" and statistically driven… It feels like it's a stressful job for those guys. It's a game and needs to be played, not a bunch of choirs to complete and feel good about yourself when you lost. Now that bs ruling interpretation comes into the picture out of nowhere. Let's take a simple rule and make it complicated. Half of the boarding calls are not called. Why? Who the heck knows. One day I see a simple push from behind when fighting for the puck or a spot and it's a penalty, another – a player is pushed into the boards head first, and nobody seems to care. Solution? Adds on jerseys and more digital overlays all over the place to destruct us all.

  14. The real question is, why are we even talking about this? And the answer is, only because the name McDavid is attached to it. And tbh the worst part is he was EXTREMELY CLEARLY offsides, without question. I swear Oilers fans would be the worst if Toronto didn't exist, but even they've been humbled after last season so honestly they are the worst right now. But yes they got the Kusnetsov call wrong, but who cares and how does that affect you? I can't help but think that y'all are still salty about the Avs and Makar in the playoffs even though that was a completely different scenario and the correct call…

  15. Baby whiners. That's not possession while crossing the line. Pucks drifting away from his stick. Use your eyeballs, not your ugly orange homer goggles.

  16. Why not change the rule to the following:
    The puck carrier may enter the zone in any way, shape, or form. However, every other player of the same team must at least touch the neutral or d zone with at least part of the blade if they touch the o zone at all when the puck enters the o zone.
    That'd be pretty easy to gauge during a review.

  17. According to the rules, he WAS onside.

    Rule 83 – Off-side – Page 126

    A player controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the leading edge of the blue line.

    Definitions- Controlling the puck – Page 212

    The act of propelling the puck with the stick, hand or feet. Control of the puck is not lost when contact with the puck is made by an opponent, the boards or the net, provided the player in control of the puck continues propelling the puck.

    Definitions- Possession of the puck – Page 213

    The last player to physically touch the puck with his stick or body shall be considered in possession of the puck. (NOTE 1) A player can have possession of the puck without control, but he cannot have control of the puck without possession.

    NOTE

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