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đ€ Vous fait vraiment vous demander Ă quel point Toronto bĂ©nĂ©ficie d’une valeur de prospect gonflĂ©e
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When Toronto media and bloggers get hooked on a player, youâd swear that said player is the next Wayne Gretzky.
They more often than not end up being bottom 6 guys, if they even have a career in the NHL.
It was Robertson for a few years, now itâs Knies.
Stephen Halliday is the next Dany heatley
I will say, credit where itâs due, Knies is a really fucking good player and a joy to watch. I havenât watched enough of Halliday yet to comment, but I get the hype behind Knies.
But yeah itâs really common for their prospects to get drastically overrated. First it was Robertson, then Niemela and Hirvonen who have been mediocre since. Of them all, Iâve liked Knies the most though so I wouldnât be shocked if he makes it big.
Sorry but Halliday literally looks 30 years old.
Such a weird take. Knies is overrated and everyone on the Leaf sub gets mad at me when I point out his flaws and statistical comparables, but prospects get overrated everywhere, and historically the Leafs have ended up giving away a lot of good ones for very little in return lol. I canât really think of a time the Leafs gave up a hyped up prospect and clearly won the trade. Thinking about giving up a useful 3C, a recent first round pick, and a first rounder for a year and a change of a battered 31 year old Owen Nolan. They held onto Steen and Colaiacovo just long enough to trade them for Lee Stemoniak. They traded Tuukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft. Best examples I can give you are Schenn for JVR, in which case Schenn had played four years in the NHL (longer than JVR!), and the WJHC probably helped sell DiDominico in the Versteeg deal, and you could argue Viktor Stahlberg brought more to the table anyway. Hell, I love Jake Muzzin, but the Leafs gave two guys who became useful young NHLers for him AND a first.
Just wait till Halliday put the clamps on Fantilli during the outdoor game in 2 weeks
Knies also plays on the best team in the NCAA, Ohio is 7th right now but itâs interesting for sure how the sens always find these guys
Every team/fanbase inflates the value of their prospects. Toronto gets more airtime because of the market, but most knowledgeable hockey people are aware of the bias and don’t take it too seriously. It’s not like they’ve made any big trades involving prospects.
There’s also a big difference between a guy like Halliday, who isn’t even a top 10 prospect in the Sens’ system, and Knies, who is his team’s top prospect.
He’s not overrated. He’s just promising and fills an organizational weakness so it makes the news. Who knows how good he’ll actually be but if he can get into our top six then that’d be great. Good for him for choosing to stay in college instead of prematurely jumping to pro.
Knies is a good prospect, but heâs starting to get massively overrated by both media and fans.
His numbers are good but not much better then last years numbers, was one of the older players in his draft year, and most of the projections realistically have him as a Nick Foligno style player if he hits. So a good player, but not some star in the making.
Looking forward to Justin Pogge’s imminent breakout year lol
Hallidays a PP merchant. Gets about half of his assists and 6/7 of his goals on the PP
The thing is itâs because the Leafs usually donât have bunch of decent prospects so they really only have the 1 maybe 2 to focus on. Whereas our drafting has been great and have lots of prospects to look at.
Yes. Knies is exciting. He scores lots of goals and many are highlights due to the skill or timing. I don’t even think they are similar players. Halliday (stats wise) looks like the prime setup guy.
Searching your sub, I don’t see a single fan taking the time to post Halliday highlights to get hyped about.
**All** Knies college goals are posted.
Our fans are rabid for TML material to the point that some fuckin guy can scream at a camera with our jersey on and get a career out of it.
This dude was drafted last June, but he is only 6 months younger than Stutzle… It’s a man playing with teenagers.
Goal scores are harder to fined therefore valued more
Every team inflates their prospects worth. Itâs called hype. And blame the media if you want to blame someone. They donât shut up about anything.
and your point? both of them wont make it to the Nhl anyways
Not to be that guy but Halliday was drafted as a double overager. He was eligible for the 2020 draft, which makes him a year farther into his development than Knies.