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28 Comments

  1. At the time of the trade, the 'advanced' stats clearly identified Tkachuk as a far superior player than Huberdeau. I'm sure there was some rhetoric that said otherwise, but the stat nerds recognized Tkachuk's talents on the ice. Run a google search on these terms:
    ineffectivemath tkachuk

    First result should be a link to twitter from July 23, 2022 (could be July 22, my timezone is weird and gets dates wrong sometimes, lol)

    The first tweet there will be a clear heat map showing Tkachuk's performance in the offensive and defensive zones. If you scroll down to his next tweet in the thread, you'll see the same for Huberdeau. Tkachuk's heatmaps are significantly more impressive in both zones.

    I think the biggest issue with Huberdeau is he went from having a career year to a career worst year. So no, I wouldn't have expected him to be as good as he was last year. But next year, I don't expect him to be as bad as he's been this year, haha

  2. It would be nice if he did anything. It's like he's invisible, at best. I want to like him. But fuck, we're bad.

  3. I thought that the Flames massively won that trade the moment Huberdeau signed. Oh god was I wrong.

  4. Calgary and Vancouver screwed up so bad lol maybe they should trade with each other. You take JT we will take Jonathan.

  5. Hey Johnny, Boston fan here. I can tell you first hand that sometimes it takes a season for a guy to settle in. Foligno looked like an absolute bust last year and he’s been great for us this year, same with ullmark, ok season last year this year best goalie in the nhl.

  6. I didn't know much about Florida and Huberdeau at the time of the trade but they traded a top player five years younger for him and suspected his performance was more dependent on his Florida line mate chemistry and system. To me it was a WTF move right from the start.

  7. It's super common for players to take a full season to adjust to a new team. Especially with how long Huberdeau was in Florida. Next year he will be better, and the year after that better still. I know hockey fans have the attention span of a goldfish, but you'd think after we've seen the same thing a million times we'd eventually learn.

    But here we are once again trying to calll a trade/signing a "bust" a few months after it happened.

  8. Nah man I think Thursday nights are gonna be the fixed nights in nhl post all star break… seemed that it was Tuesdays for the past month or so leading up to the break. ,flames had like 98% of $ bet on them. Flames,oilers, islanders and kraken all had over 80% $ riding on them and they all lost…

  9. I feel for you Johnny ! As a Leafs fan I’m always complaining about the lack of success on their part. But I sure understand how it must be hair pulling time for Flames fans. I do like Kadri as an addition and he hasn’t missed a beat considering that it took a while to get him signed. I picked the flames to finish high in the standings and I’m surprised at Huberdeau’s lack of inspiring play. Still hoping for a late season push by Calgary though…

  10. He absolutely need some professional help to get his confidence back. I'm wondering if he has a sport psychologist who is taking care of him but he needs this without any doubt

  11. LOL it’s not rhetoric I ALWAYS knew the flames lost this trade- it was never a question. I WAS impressed that Calgary signed Huberdeau…. Of course now that also looks like a shitty move. But relax J you don’t know hockey like that and a LOT of people said Florida won this deal from the go. Good try lil guy

  12. Stupid contract idea signing for so much money and for so long with out even putting on the jersey!

  13. Everyone in Florida knew Cgy lost the deal. Two overrated players in exchange for a young game changer

  14. I don't know. I'm sure living in the state of Florida is no picnic, but it's probably not so bad when you're rich. Imagine having to move to a place like Calgary, with garbage winters and wannabe Texan cowboys everywhere. I don't think I'd ever adjust if someone forced me to move there.

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