Elliotte Friedman sur 32 pensées: « Les Jets ont parlé aux Canadiens de temps en temps de Dubois, nous savons que Dubois finira là-bas à 95%, est-il possible de conclure une entente pour que les Canadiens l’attrapent plus tôt et nous obtenons quelque chose que nous veulent? Ils en ont parlé » (RUMEUR)
Elliotte Friedman on 32 Thoughts:
"Jets have talked to the Canadiens on and off about Dubois, we know that Dubois is gonna end up there 95%, is there someway we can make a deal so the Canadiens get him earlier and we get something we want? They've talked about that"#GoHabsGo pic.twitter.com/bxqRh7766p
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This is honestly Kent’s biggest challenge, to play this right.
He could cost to much futures or cause the team to launch into a middling team again if done to early.
Or
He could become Tavares and the cap hit hurts the team overall when filling out talent.
But more than likely he makes our top 6 a legit danger.
Still want him as a UFA.
Damn ! I trust Friedman so if he really said « we know that Dubois is gonna end up there 95% » then I will start getting a bit excited.
I guess now it’s a matter of when, not if
There is so much smoke that it gotta be a blazing fire at this point… right ?
95% chance he ends up here, or that he uses the Habs as a bargaining tool? I’d like to think this is the one time we’re not just a tool for a bigger contract, but we’ll see.
omg straight into my veins this is the stuff i obsessively check reddit for at noon on a Monday
I can’t see the Jets signing him to a 1 yr deal and losing him for nothing so he’ll most likely be traded much like tkachuk. I think the habs would be smart to get him, but could be way too expensive
I say wait until he’s ufa, why give up assets which you know will be quality
Maybe if you insist we can throw in Wideman
The 5% chance:
Let’s say J.Anderson is part of the deal. Remember Dubois will be RFA. If he can settle for 8×8 kind of deal. Would you give Harris or Barron to make the deal work?
The only way I see them trading for him knowing what they know and what Hughes has said recently in interviews is if they get a unexpected strong return for Edmundson and that forms the basis of the package.
The Florida pick and ours are off the table
No point in trading assets for him. Wait until he’s UFA
Anderson, Edmundson and Heineman for Dubois, take it or we wait until he’s UFA
You still have to trade for Dubois, players won’t wait 1 year to sign long term when their value is that high… I think we trade for him and sign him. People underestimate how good he is, he becomes our best player as soon as the trade is made
I *really* hope we don’t trade for him. I think we’ll end up overpaying for a 60-point center. We don’t need another one, we need a proper gamebreaking forward.
Dubois fits our timeline and Winnipeg has shitty leverage at this point. If we could get him this summer for something like the Timo Meier package I’d be all over it.
Lot of people saying just wait until he’s UFA, well that won’t happen. If he’s not staying in Winnipeg this summer he’ll get traded somewhere and sign an extension immediately unless he’s stupid enough to risk an injury and his payday.
Trade Mailloux for him. No more Mailloux and you get PLD win win
I don’t get why MTL would trade for PLD? The kid have a single season to play before going full UFA. MTL wont be competitive next year so why give a prospect/pick for a guy that most likely will sign here anyway in 2024?
You know what they could really use? A big 6’4 bottom pair right handed defenseman that’s fairly young and not really expensive.
Habs have a lot of players in the pipeline that need to develop. If we have Dubois next season, we’ll be better, for sure. Probably start having pressure to make the playoffs.
As bad as this season was, it gave us an opportunity to the 5 rookies on D, and Slaf/RHP/Ylonen/Belzile. Most of these guys don’t get as much rope if we’re trying to make a WC spot.
I think paying market price this year is a mistake. We need roster spots for Farell, our 2023 1st, maybe even Florida pick (but I’m hoping that’s a RHD).
PLD coming in year makes so much more sense. We’ll have a much better developed crop of rookied (Farel, Dach, Slaf, 2023 1st) will have enough time to cement their place on the team and we can close out the rebuild.
Another major concern is the Toronto, too much on the top line issue and C « log jam ». If we draft a top C in the draft we’ll have Suzuki, PLD, Dach and 2023 for 2 spots. Too much. Dach is great at filling in but can also be our 2C.
Given the unknowns, I think we’re better off waiting unless the price is legitimately ridiculously low. Even to the people offering Andy, we could trade him for assets instead of the guy that wants to come when we’ll actually need him. And even then, why not keep Andy, no one pushes him around.
Word out on the street last week was the Jets were heavily scouting Mallioux ….
PLD for Anderson + Beck.
I’d take that deal even if Power House is my favorite Hab.
I’d actually prefer trading for Dubois to get him a year early, and guarantee he signs here, so long as the price is reasonable. While everyone seems to think Dubois will walk himself into free agency and sign here on his own, a lot can change in a year, and you never know what kind of offers other teams might make. I’d rather guarantee we land a key piece than just hope he drops everything to come here on his own.
I also think getting Dubois this off-season lines up well with our rebuild. Looking at our young players and prospects, we already have one top six centre (Suzuki), two or three top six wingers (Caufield, Dach, Slafkovsky) and a plethora of defensemen (Ghule, Barron, Harris, Hutson, Mailloux, Xhekaj). Plus we can add whoever we draft this year. All we are really lacking right now is another legitimate top six centre, and a goalie.
I feel like we have most of the pieces already, and adding Dubois would put the finishing touches on the core of our roster. Obviously we’d still need time for the players to gell and develop, but we should be on the upswing at that point.
People keep saying “wait for him to come in a year once he’s a UFA”. However, we have no garantee he will come in a year. Winnipeg will be willing to trade him at the next deadline, and a bunch of teams will be ready to throw a big package for him. What if he decides to sign with the team he’s traded to? We cannot take that gamble. He would be a major piece in our rebuild. Trade for him.
/r/habs in a nutshell
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I’m calling it
If we get him, we will pay way too much for him and end up regretting it.
If we don’t get him, it’s because Hughes didn’t want to give too much for him.
In Kent we trust
I don’t think they’ll fetch an insane package if sent to Montreal (Don’t think we’re sending a first for an RFA to a team with zero leverage). It’ll all depends on what Winnipeg like better, a better return next TDL for an higher return or a trade that happens 7 months earlier getting them a lower return but maybe including ’23 picks. Is getting a B prospect instead of an A a year later better for a team looking to contend now?
I’m really skeptical of this. This guy complains and gets whatever he wants. Why do you we want that on the team?