Qu’est-il arrivé aux gardiens qui serraient le poteau comme ça ? Je ne les vois plus faire ça.
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CommercialBig7008
@Ligue nationale de hockey
Qu’est-il arrivé aux gardiens qui serraient le poteau comme ça ? Je ne les vois plus faire ça.
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CommercialBig7008
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This feels like a shitpost
Isn’t this a photo of a goalie hugging the post?
I see it in every game
Ever since that goalpost viciously attacked Austin Matthew’s, they have had a restraining order against them. They must stay at least three inches away from players at all times.
https://youtu.be/4h3yU_Op6fU
HR got involved. What could seem like an innocent hug to one person is sexual harassment to another.
Well that’s funny since the Gus Bus is doing just that!
Seriously, this is the VH position, and it has been replaced by the RVH. That’s why you don’t see it much anymore.
I think it’s called reverse hinge, where the goalie’s near post leg is flat to the ice. It exposes a little more net short side but the goalie can move post to post quicker.
You’re thinking of how like igor, vassy and quick get down on the ice, those are the players that come to mind there are more tho. The reason is to get post to post like this is harder and slower also when going to move laterally to the other post or middle of the net the five hole is left open longer due to how the post leg is vertical. Also goalies that i mentioned are very athletic and tall, there is no need to cover the short side that much, in all reality a goal that starts from the corner will most likely be a shot and rebound to the middle or opposite side of the net and another player will score, or the shot will go far side or the player will pass to the slot forcing the goalie to move laterally opening up the issues i mentioned earlier.
That is called the VH Stance. Traditionally taught to aspiring goaltenders up until the late 2000’s.
Blame Jonathan Quick’s playoffs dominance in the early 2010’s. Everyone started emulating his « Reverse VH Stance » (no idea why they don’t call it the HV Stance instead).
He likes to push off the horizontal leg, which is against the post, when moving laterally to be quicker when covering one-timers.
Now they do the RVH and mcdavid bounces it off their back from a negative angle. It’s nice
I watched a video somewhere and it’s because they can use their horizontal leg to push off from the post if there was a cross ice pass. Having the horizontal pad already flat on the ice would elimate the time to cover the 5 hole while sliding across the crease vs the vertical pad needing to come down and exposing a huge gap in the 5 hole when you need to push off.
Jake Oettinger started doing that this year around mid season. He doesnt use it all the time, but he has been working it into his repertoire.
Easier to push off a horizontal leg to get across the crease and stop a one-timer than trying to push off that vertical leg against the post. For that reason, this form simply isn’t taught anymore. Think it was Quick who made the new style famous.
Because they all bump the net off the moorings bwahahahaha
Overuse of the VH was replaced by overuse of the RVH
They don’t wanna get Michiganed
I think the game is too fast now for that stance.
You’ll probably get a better answer on r/hockeygoalies but this is called the VH stance.
As others have said, this was taught in the early 2000’s and the VH refers to the Vertical/Horizontal positioning of your pads. The stance was the solution for ‘butterfly’ style goaltenders as the evolution of the ‘post hugging’ technique of the ‘standup’ goalies of yesteryear to cover the short side. This VH position is good for sealing the post because you have your leg pad vertically sealed against the post with your glove to cover above the pad.
The VH does have some shortcomings though. If you are in this stance on your blocker side, it is really tough to position your blocker to cover above the pad while also using the blade of your stick to cover the holes on the ice left next to your skates. It is also tough to try to push off of the post from this position to cover a cross-crease pass or a player skating in front of the net from the corner. When pushing off from this position there is also a short period of time where your five-hole is left gapingly open while your vertical pad transitions down to the ice. Skilled players can easily exploit this by skating from the corner and slipping it between your legs as you move across.
The reverse VH, made popular by Johnathan Quick, is the solution to most of these problems. In this stance, the pad on the post side stays on the ice in a horizontal position, easily sealing the ice. Having your leg in this position also allows you to quickly and powerfully push off of the post to address a quick cross-crease pass. You then have to use your chest/body/head to cover the upper portion of the net, but for large NHL goaltenders this is not a big issue. The benefits of quicker movement and much better seal on the ice far outweigh the negatives. Although, the major issue would be that this is a very unnatural position for your hips/legs to be in, and could lead to injury issues through wear on your body or in a collision.
Most goalies today employ the Reverse VH technique and *all* play the ‘butterfly’ style of goaltending. Today, differences between goalie techniques are more nuanced and generally you will see ‘blocking’ style goalies and ‘reaction’ style goalies. Larger goalies can play a blocking style where as long as they are in good position, they take up most of the net and can rely more on that. Reactionary goalies get more creative to make saves, relying more on their reaction time, and have to be better athletes to make the same saves a larger blocking goalie can.
Goalie here. It sucks. Very few guys still prefer it, most do the RVH or overlap techniques now.
Vasy still does this sometimes, just rarely
I remember when goalies would just stand there, « hugging the post. »
It’s ineffective. One quick pass and you are completely out of positing, not to mention how easy it is for players to bank the puck off the side of your head.
It’s just a technique lost in time
Who made this famoud
They do that so Connor McDavid can bank it in off of their back for a goal as he jets around the net.
Johnathan Quick. It’s a copycat league
And I have to add what happened to goalies poke checking like Brodeur used to I never see that anymore. So many passes could have been prevented through the crease if they just poke checked it away.
They use RVH more now.
How you finna say you never see them do this and post a pic of him doin the damn thing?? lol
The VH fell out of favour in the early 2010s. Its more difficult to pull off and slower than the RVH. It does a better job covering up the net especially the top shelf, but that difference is inconsequential when every goalie is like 6’5 or 6’6.
Lol what. Stupid posts here 24/7
Funny story, when I was in high school 2002-2005) they taught this at a goalie school I attended. I was always really bad at it for some reason, so I used to do a version of the rvh. My goalie coaches would always hammer me for not executing the VH save selection. I felt pretty damn validated in 2012 once it became common knowledge the rvh was better.