Faisons cela! Le balado Cult of Hockey. Par les fidèles et pour les fidèles, ce soir avec Bruce McCurdy et David Staples. Ils creusent dans la défaite 3-2 d’Edmonton contre les Kings de Los Angeles.
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It would have almost been fitting if this league had lost it's greatest star to a kneeing that went unpenalized and instead chose to call Drai for tapping Doughty on the pads and verbally abusing him for the dirty play!
The penalty on Draisaitl was questionable for a little tap.
"How are you, Bruce?"
Bruce: "Seething."
Oilers discipline has been atrocious but the reffing has been the worst I have ever seen. It literally looks like the refs have been paid to help the Kings win.
If Darnell Nurse is your #1 defender you are in trouble. Kings in 5
The reffing was particularly retched. Kostin and draisaitl’s penalties were just flat out non call situations that definitely didn’t, and could have, gone the other way.
The one that particularly bothers me is kempe’s clear goaltender interference in overtime. You can’t barrel into the goalie after you shoot.
Lot's of mistakes, some bad calls along with some not made = loss. Mcdavid realized after the many extra pass's to his team mates with no success that he should just do it himself and bang, bang two goals. Hope he see's that. Next game should be a doozy.
Black Aces are coming as Bakersfield is out of AHL 😢 playoffs. Sub broberg for Nemo and get Dylan Hollywood in.
Lots of hockey left boys! WE BELIEVE IN YOU! Just win the next game and go from there! Heads need to be on a swivel….Especially when Kempe is on the ice.
Great analysis. Oilers looked the better team live – controlled the play. But winning 3 of 4 does not seem like something that they can do at this point. It must be the COACHING. Woodroft does a great job of keeping guys happy & being friendly/ positive. But Doesn't seem they have done the hard work all year(s) – to really building team intelligence (hockey iq) of what side of the puck to be on, how to NOT take a penalty, position/when to take the man. The frequency of Nurse or Bouch or Kane or someone making mental errors is hard to overcome & a few guys can't finish. But are among the very best in the league & big.. & capable of beating everyone -hoping they do. The Drais penalty was a crime based on how playoffs should be called – but nhL has a very bad policy to ensure the worst reffing in profL sports.
Calling all top 6 wingers. Show the hell up please or this will be over soon
I think it's a little bit lame to blame the refs for a loss. However that call on Leon was horrible and it cost the Oilers a goal against. I have no idea what the refs were thinking there.
these two are on glue if they think Devin Shore is the answer.. wake the fuck up.
Refs up 2-1 in series
It honestly looked like even the linesmen had a bent edge last night. Not blowing it down on the first goal, mistake on the Bouchard icing (rectified, ish), missed call on the high stick, close off-side play that Kane was vocal about (looked onside, but hard to tell). They were whistle happy when it didn't benefit the Oilers, but absent otherwise.
If the Oilers can't get it together when it's even, then by all means credit the Kings. I didn't see a Kings win, I saw a weighted coin flip that always lands heads up.
Fellas THANK YOU BOTH this was one of your most enjoyable broadcasts t date I can almost taste the Oilers crocodile tears when you two get rolling….Bruce it was not a bullshit penalty committed by Leon it was an OBVIOUS extremely selfish and thoughtless penalty and to do it OUTSIDE OF A PLAYACTION right in front of Officials is a slap in their faces and a slap in the face to all Reffs and Players who follow the Rules like we teach all kids to do…The Oilers Leadership Group is lost at sea and they are essentially Coachless.. We have all seen the online videos of Leon handing out filthy dangerous nutshots to opponents from behind so he gives as much as he gets so dont blame the Refs Bruce blame Leons past remember its the Playoffs the whole world is watching … …Fellas….please remember that not everyone has been beating the Oilers War Drum some of us have been sending up big S.O.S style Smoke Signals.The very real possibility that the Oilers are simply not mature enough or seasoned enough to maintain their discipline for 60 minutes as a Group is now the Pink Elephant in the Room and the Coaches and Leadership core are responsible To date the ONLY Oiler who has said the right things after the losses is RNH. Seriously guys why isnt anyone talking about putting Campbell in net before the Series is officially over? Skinner looks tired and like he is having a hard time staying in games when he goes long stretches without action and shots on him….is it time to roll the dirty dice of destiny and throw Soupy into the mix?…is there a payoff there because contrary to commentary otherwise the loss is once again on Skinner…..lol lol lol…..time to put Campbell in net and see if he gets blown up or if he plays lights out….because Edmonton is clearly losing the Goaltending battle and the Coaching battle. I guess we are seeing the Areas that the Oilers need to improve in next year….the Oilers are missing Championship EXPERIENCE in 2 key areas….Skinner needs a full Sophmore season behind him to learn composure and patience so he can stay in games mentally and how to close off his low posts and the Oilers need a 100% reset in the Player Discipline department which is all about Coaching. On a sidenote I have never really seen an NHL Team cry and whine so much about Officiating and it really is disappointing because to be honest the Reffs DO NOT LOOK BAD THIS YEAR ….its just shocking that the Oilers think they can act as a United Group in this disrespectful way because it runs down the Game itself…..You do not see Boston acting like this. If you just do not commit the fouls you will not be given penalties for breaching the rulebook. It really is that simple….the Oilers are mentally nowhere near Championship level but they are making small baby steps and next year they will make a bigger and longer impact in the Playoffs….maybe its time to start modelling the Team after Boston instead of Toronto.
So, Kostin gets called for interference, but not the LA player for holding Conner against the boards as he is down on the ice after check…..in overtime. That was an obvious missed call,… Shame on the ref.
If there’s any blame on the first goal look no further than the guy wearing 97 and the actual centre on the ice that should have been protecting the centre of the net. When the puck came loose he should have followed iafallo to the front of the net like the centre should and allowed Hyman to go back to his point man where he was suppose to be. A centre should ALWAYS be between the puck and his net in the d zone. This is playoff hockey Connor, play D like it
If the NHL was a restaurant, every customer would have a referee piss in their soup, and every customer would complain when it happened to them, and every customer would make fun of every customer for complaining and somehow the restaurant would make a ton of money!
11:00 You know that normally mellow Bruce is mad when he starts cursing.
Nuge, Hyman, Kane and Yammo have all been shit.
Kings got some fortuitous bounces along with maybe some questionable calls
These Oilers have to be the dumbest players on the planet! What the fuck is with all these stupid penalties they are taking? Why isn't Woody coming down hard on them? 2 games they lost because of penalties in overtime!
The Oilers are not disciplined enough. Skinner’s inexperience is showing. The reffing was pretty balanced IMHO. Both teams got calls they didn’t like but LA kept their cool. They also are a better defensive team and they slowing Edmonton down.
"If I call a penalty on the Kings I'm deciding the game. If I call a penalty on the Oilers I'm being a good ref."
Can we not agree that Nurse has a lot going for him as a defence man but he also makes consistent, totally head scratching decisions where he leaves the most dangerous man open in front or positions himself in no-man’s-land, doing the flamingo squat? It doesn’t have to be one or the other: Nurse good or Nurse bad.
If you take the average of everything he does, that’s the level of player he is.
Still need a Number 1 defenseman, #1’s don’t miss assignments like Nurse on goal 1 and 3.
I just watched another video of the goals and even the ESPN viewer identifies Nurse in both.
Nurse sucks, most of us have known that for a long time.
The Oilers have only gone 1-7 in the last 8 NHL Playoffs with Woodcroft behind the bench….. maybe Woody has been figured out .
You guys are a disgrace. Complaining and putting blame on the Oilers? The oil won all 3 games. Skinner played his best game ever in game 3. I will never listen to you two ever again.
What the fox ? / Oilers were out foxed/ next game will decide the series !!!! /
-Eckholm called for the weakest board battle hit ever seen
-Vinny called for bumping a LAK after the whistle. A bump so light even Kevin Bieska was calling out the LAK for embellishment.
-Draisaital called for chirping and tapping Doughty shin pads.
Three of the softest calls I've ever seen in the NHL, especially the playoffs.
-Kostin called after the LAK comes after him away from the puck but Kostin shoves him down. Then the LAK trips him by kicking his feet while down and Kostin falls on top of him. If you are calling that, you have to send them both off.
-RNH gets called for slashing a player, okay sure, its a slash, undisciplined. But in the 3rd period, McDavid gets a two handed chop in the O-zone, No call.
-McDavid tripped while coming from behind the net, No call.
-McDavid gets pinned against the boards while the LAK leans on him, no call.
-High stick missed that leads to GWG
And to be somewhat fairer…McDavid did crosscheck a LAK that was not called.
Also kudos to the refs for seeing that Nurse didn't knee on knee Ardvossan but somehow did not call Ardvossan for his blatant embellishment. Again the broadcast people were calling him out for diving at end of the 3rd. Take that garbage play out of hockey and back to Soccer.
But in no way was this an evenly reffed game.
And yes, more Oilers need to start contributing but you can't distract from the horrible lopsided reffing by saying the Oilers should just do better.
My opinion: the Oilers have the the talent, and the heart to go all the way. They need to dig into the character they've built all season, forget their laurels, and work for the magic. I believe they'll win the series.
How come the reffing is always bad against the Oilers in LA? Do local biased refs do the games?. It should be investigated to see if there is any shenanigans going on!?…
How do franchises make formal complaints about the officiating? There's plenty of evidence in this series already to show that the refs are clearly not calling it even. Two early OT calls????? and much more.
This series is going to save me thousands of dollars. Money I spend getting every single game on TV, money I spend on jerseys, money I spend on tickets – Money I am done giving to the NHL. The way the games are officiated renders what the players do meaningless and I am DONE with spending on the league. I'll do what's free and nothing more.
Commissioner BET-man does not want Canadian teams to win.
Thanks for analyzing the pain. I find it cathartic. I hope you guys do too.
The NHL is a stickler for the details and getting the calls right, that's why Makar's goal last year according to the rule books is onside. Even though his lack of possession is literally between stickhandles that allows his teammate to tag back on. Then this year there is a missed stoppage in OT, and the Oil get burned on a non call. There is no angle that show space between the puck and the high stick, because the puck touched his stick. The NHL gets the details right last year and it's a call against the Oilers. The NHL get the details wrong this year and it's a call against the Oilers. That's the frustrating part.
The weight of expectations seems to be too much for the oilers early in this series, plenty of time left to turn it around but this game was heartbreaking to watch slip away.
Woody has got to make a bold move here… replace 56 with 21. The Klim Reaper seems to be dangerous almost every time he is out there. It is an error in player deployment that he is getting the least amount of ice time among the forwards.
I hope the Kings coaching staff doesn't show this video to their team!!! This video praises the Hall of Fame LA defenceman and their powerful forechecking game!!! It seems hard to believe that you guys really think the Oilers have a chance after listening to this video!!!
A lot of cope going on in the comments
I listen to pretty much every Canadian teams media and fan channel and I can say HANDS DOWN BY FAR oilers fans & especially media complain about refs more than any other team, next closest is Canuck’s
Anyone complaining about the penalty to rnh where he slashed so hard it broke the stick of the player in the offensive zone and actively trying to score has either never watched hockey or is a delusional homer because that is going to get called every single time. Leon’s post la goal penalty was also stupid I mean sometimes that doesn’t get called but that’s needlessly tempting fate
Keeping things in perspective with Leon The Warlords Post-game commentary we say, Mirror mirror on the wall who is the best Head Coach of them all? Head Coaches are suppossed to make sure all the different Players each individually always have a clear realtime understanding of the normally evolving and changing "Standards"before each Playoffs start and before a Series begins and before each Pre-Game Plan is discussed.I do not blame Leon for expressing concerns that he is not sure what the Officiating Standards are from game to game because his Coaches are obviously not communicating that properly.
American refs.. all im going to say
Glad there are people who recognize LA's Blueline but like everybody else in the world vastly underrating Matt Roy I agree isn't the best skater of the top 4 it's not awful and quick skating laterally but it doesn't really matter because he is the smartest player on the ice and virtually never out of position and something I've noticed recently like the last 2 seasons playoffs included McDavid has seemingly avoided matching against Roy and has preferred to attack Roy's D-partner whenever possible maybe its just side of the ice thing but it's noticeable