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Flames, Jonathan Huberdeau a perdu le commerce de Matthew Tkachuk


Flames, Jonathan Huberdeau a perdu le commerce de Matthew Tkachuk


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  1. Chemical_Signal2753

    Depends on your perspective. Tkachuk could have signed the qualifying offer, played a season, and left for nothing. While they underperformed, the Flames got a good return for 1 season worth of Matthew Tkachuk.

    Edit: in my opinion, the mistake was not flipping Huberdeau and Weegar. Both were on great contracts with one year remaining and would have gotten a haul in young players, prospects, and draft picks. We have heard that there was a debate on whether to rebuild or push forward last season, and I think this was a consequence of continuing to remain competitive.

    I don’t think it is unrealistic to say that the Flames could have turned Tkachuk into 3 first round draft picks, a couple mid tier prospects, and change.

  2. IfICommentDownvote

    ALRIGHT WE GET IT WE FUCKED UP I DONT NEED A CONSTANT REMINDER

  3. Top-Pension-7527

    Hube underperformed for sure but the team seemed fragmented (coaching issue?) and never had chemistry (I miss the purple gatorade days 🙁 ). I don’t know if it’s completely his fault but ya obviously we lost the trade.

  4. thecmen

    Panthers may have won the trade….after the first year. Like all trades, it takes time for the dust to settle to determine “a winner”. Let’s talk again in a few years.

  5. Wooden_Proposal_1615

    Hub has the ability to bounce back. Will the contract age well? No! Weeger is a top pairing D- Man locked up long term at a good salary. Yes we lost a great player in Chucky, we also gained a 2nd line LW and a top pairing D. Still a few years before we can evaluate who won or not.

  6. cgydan

    We lost the trade in the short term. But in the longer term, who knows. Tkachuk plays a style that can shorten a player’s career. So maybe we lost the trade now but let’s see what happens.

    But I agree flipping for picks and younger players would have been a better move. Except Sutter would not have agreed with that and we all now how dysfunctional the Flames have been this past year

  7. dookie-cannon

    Thank you captain obvious

  8. LionManMan

    THW bringing that cutting edge analysis.

  9. willshire59

    Let’s talk after this season with a new coach and hub hopefully playing on his proper wing the whole year. I’m optimistic of next season see who we get as coach /gm.

  10. flyin_italian

    There is so much term in this deal that we really can’t say. Not to mention other moving parts.

    It’s a dynamic comparison that will probably ebb and flow.

    **Trade happened:** unanimous flames win

    **End of season:** unanimous Florida win

    **Next season:** ??

    **The heat death of the universe:** everyone loses

    It’s not looking good right now with chucky tearing it up, but give Huberdeau just 1 above 70 point season next year and I’d put it back to a « wash » status.

  11. OnlyHereForMemes69

    I think I want to see Huberdeau on his main wing for more than a quarter of the season before saying we lost the trade

  12. Suspicious_Pie_8716

    What a dumb article. Maybe next he could make the bold argument of how Chicago were the true winners of the draft lottery.

  13. iggyisgoat

    It’s been 1 season lol. Huberdeau’s extension hasn’t even started yet.

    Let’s not forget the Panthers were literally one loss away from missing the playoffs entirely and finished behind the Flames in the standings.

  14. Comfortable-Ad-7158

    A guy wanting out and ready for a trade vs a guy who played a decade for the same team that drafted him then got blindsided by a trade.

    THW really have some shit takes

  15. BlackFalconEscalator

    Tkachuk is happy where he is. He wasn’t going to resign here. It would have been a shame to let him walk.

  16. brokensword15

    No fucking shit

    But also our hand was forced so not much else we could’ve done

  17. Straight-Plate-5256

    As of right now yes, but it’s still too early overall.
    Weegar is showing signs of being a solid top pairing guy with us

    Huby I suspect will likely bounce back next year (save your overpaid bum comments, idgaf)

    Schwindt looks like he could end up being a decent bottom/ middle 6 C for us in a year or two

    Obviously Tkachuk hit another level in Florida and they’re making a solid push but considering he requested a trade and everyone knew tre got us a really damn solid return out of it considering we should’ve had way less leverage, he had no way of knowing how rough of an adjustment season huberdeau was going to have or how frustrating the season was going to be as a whole. Give it another year or two and it could still end up a win-win trade

  18. ElectricMoose

    Let’s see how we do under a new coach

  19. jonos360

    If we win the cup next year and Florida doesn’t win the ECF this year, will people still say this?

    Too early to judge. I wish we still had Chucky too, but he didn’t want to be here.

  20. robbhope

    The Flames « won » that trade the moment it was made. They had 3 teams he was willing to stay with long term. Treliving had an ownership group over his head refusing to let him take a « rebuild » package despite him asking to repeatedly. This has been hinted at by numerous people on the Fan including Steinberg whom I trust.

    The package we received for Chucky was as good as we could have ever hoped for. Sutter destroying Huberdeau’s chances at success doesn’t change that.

  21. Nativejoel

    If Florida wins the cup. And we don’t. They may have outright won the trade.

    If they win soon and then we win next year. A even trade

    They don’t win, and we do. We win.

    If we both don’t win. Florida probably had the better end. Getting a prime Tkachuk who has proven himself to be a superstar.

  22. tristan1616

    I mean our coach basically sabotaged the entire season and it just so happened to be his first with us. I’ll hold my judgement for maybe two more years to see how he does with a new coach but after that his performance falls on him imo

  23. WhoJustShat

    Hindsight is always 20/20, Matthew wanted out Brad did the absolute best he could considering the season Hubey had, win or loose the trade its better than letting him go for nothing.

  24. pforsbergfan9

    You can’t say a team lost a trade one year into it. You can’t really make that judgement call until really all players and assets are retired. Sure Calgary thought it would help right away… but Florida could win the cup this year and Calgary could win it next year with Huby leading the charge. Who won the trade then?

  25. Longjumping-Limit827

    Give it at least another season before saying that ya dink

  26. Correct-Boat-8981

    Both teams won this trade. Florida won for obvious reasons, Calgary won because they got significant assets for a guy who wasn’t going to sign. In a situation where the team is handcuffed to get what they can for a player, the Flames did well to get as much as they did. There’s too much emphasis on Huberdeau, who can still bounce back. People forget the Flames also got Weegar in that trade, who’s been solid, and Schwindt who’s been key for the Wranglers and has a future with the big club.

  27. HardButter

    So Calgary would have got nothing if he did a JG. So getting anything above nothing is a win. Other stupid articles they could have written about Flames –

    Flames lose 1st Round draft pick by statistics.

    Why Calgary has never got a WC spot in the Atlantic division.

    Flames have not won any games in the 23/24 season, what we think is wrong.

    JG trade was a win for Calgary.

  28. milkisforbabies666

    Lost it this year. Huby has a never level he never got to under Sutter. I expect huge bounce back year

  29. andy_055

    It’s hilarious how some people call Huberdeau a bust after one off season. Coming into the season he was 2nd in assists and 4th n points in 4 seasons combined. This is obviously the off year when basically the entire flames team struggled to score. As a playmaker you rely on your teammates actually hitting the net and scoring. Tons of posts and missed nets on grade a chances. Still played above his contract value and easily will rebound next year with a new offence forward coach/gm and proper linemates and usage. Then weegar who was one of best defensive defenceman in league. Will also benefit greatly with offence forward coach/gm. Tkachuk was going to leave, had very limited teams to trade with. Perfect example of a win/win trade

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