Quelqu’un a soulevé le sujet sur un fil Twitter : cela semble toujours si stupide que le LIRR n’offre pas de service spécial à UBS les jours de match compte tenu du nombre de personnes qui le prendraient si la marche était plus courte.
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SockDem
@Islanders de New York
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Original article: https://www.thelirrtoday.com/2023/04/belmont-park-ubs-arena-eliminated.html
The current situation is absurd and borderline unsafe for people who aren’t prepared. I went to a game on a freezing windy night and it was pure chaos. Nobody giving directions to understand the shit situation it is so it’s just hoards of people fighting to get on busses that seem to appear randomly like it’s the apocalypse. I’m young and healthy so it didn’t actually matter for me but there were lots of elderly people who didn’t deserve to go thru that.
The only reason I don’t go by car is because, somehow, that situation is even worse. I’m no transit expert, but I really can’t see why it’d be so difficult to use the Belmont spur station, and time trains to leave after games end. I just went to a Mets game and they had a second train (not listed on TrainTime) prepared to take the huge crowds out of Willets Point
It might be worth crossposting the article to r/nycrail, you’ll probably find more productive discussion over there
It sounds ungrateful to say but it’s really a shame they couldn’t build this at the Coliseum site. The current UBS location kind of sucks. I do live in NYC now so it’s easier for me to get there with no car than the Coliseum was but still
Another issue is the MASSIVE wall of pedestrians heading to the Elmont station absolutely slams the Emerald lot shut. They have to walk right past the lot’s only exit, blocking traffic for insane amounts of time. If they’re going to keep it like this, they need to construct a pedestrian overpass. It’s just a terrible system at present.
Yeah, it’s pretty bad. When the game goes into overtime you end up missing your train and being stuck there for 45 minutes
They messed this up In a lot of ways.
1). I don’t get why they don’t or can’t use the Belmont train stop vs Elmont UBS Stop. Belmont stop is at most a 5 min walk.
2) they need to run trains east and westbound more aligned when the game is ending, not just part of the regular LIRR schedule. If you miss the first train (most likely have to leave a few min early) you’re waiting 30 min.
3) they need to fix the pedestrian crossing at the parking lot by the Elmont UBS stop. The only way for pedestrians to get to the arena or to the train stop is by going thru traffic at the entrance / exit of that parking lot. Going Into the parking lot it can back traffic up to the highway and leaving the parking lot makes it a stand still to get out of there.
4) for such a great Arena that UBS compared to MetLife and when citi field first opened they need to seriously fix those issues if they want to make it transportation friendly considering they push the LIRR hard.
What I don’t understand is how LIRR, owned by MTA, can’t get special trains for games working. Yet Metro North, also owned by MTA, can have trains from all three of the main lines run for Yankee games. That would be like Port Jeff, Babylon AND Hempstead lines all having direct service to Belmont, no transfers needed. What makes this so much harder? And if it’s because LIRR is run worse than MNR, shouldn’t the MTA make a change?
One of the big problems with the Belmont spur is the slow speed at which trains enter and exit. Queens interlocking is one of the busiest interlockings on the LIRR so when a train comes out of belmont to go west it has to do it at 5mph blocking up most of not all 4 tracks one the mainline.
Also the type of switches in Belmont must be lined by hand as of right now ( I believe they are changing them now) so that also takes time.
A Third but less important issue is that the railroad is really short engineers right now and can’t even cover normal jobs let alone extra jobs called out for islanders games that are only 40 nights a year. The railroad is not interested in reworking schedules and track configuration for 40 nights a year, the work is not worth the money.