Je suis sûr que vous l’avez remarqué, mais je vois tellement de commentaires en ligne sur ce que nous avons abandonné dans le commerce de Lindholm. « Je ne peux pas croire qu’ils ont donné un 1er plus tout le reste » ETC Pour une raison quelconque, la plupart des commentateurs pèsent les choix du 1er tour par rapport aux autres 1ers tours. Le fait que le premier des Canucks sera probablement à la toute fin du tour fait du choix un deuxième. Les choix de première ronde perdent une valeur significative après la 10e à la 15e place. Je suis sûr que la plupart le savent, mais je voulais le mentionner pour ceux qui ne le savaient pas. Lectures complémentaires
[Examining the value of NHL Draft picks – Sound Of Hockey](https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/)
[What is the true value of a bottom-16 first round pick? (cheeringthelogo.ca)](https://cheeringthelogo.ca/2022/12/08/playoffs-teams-1st-round-picks-the-trends/)
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Darb2k
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Have you considered that the 1st round pick we gave up might turn into an Elias Lindholm someday? /s
The Flames absolutely got more value in this trade. But this is still the right move for Van. This is the best chance for a Cup in over a decade and there is no guarantee we are close to this position next year. Going all in is the right play, even if we get upset in the first round.
I will say this, we gave up too much if they consider Kuzmenko not a cap dump.
and how high you are on Hunter.
If Lindholm fits in and preforms like he did the two season before this its a win/win.
I think our system and talent on our team will help him a lot compared to the state the flames were in.
One of the talking heads said last night that there is a significant drop-off in talent after the top 20-22 picks.
This could also be viewed as a high second rounder
Assuming we finish 1st in the NHL, which is very possible, the absolute best pick we’d be giving up is 28th overall
Fans looked at the volume of assets given up, but I really like this for Van.
– Kuzmenko was a distressed asset and Van needed to send out salary. Theres value to Van in moving off of Kuzmenko.
– 2024 1st Rounder will be a very late pick, low likelihood of becoming a meaningful NHL’er.
– Hunter B was trending well, but I still had him outside of Vans top-5 prospects.
– Jurmo is probably a really nice kid
– A conditional 4th rounder is whatever.
Im really not losing sleep over any of those pieces. Feels like a win win for both sides.
Kuzmenko is the highest upside piece in this deal.
Cup > pick
There’s no need to downplay the value of our 1st rounder. CGY can use that pick themselves or package it for something else. They are in rebuild mode. It’s a significant piece, but was necessary to complete a trade for one of the top UFA centres. Fans need to be okay with giving up value for value that will help the team today.
After a big trade, there are always fans that justify it by saying the pieces we gave up aren’t that valuable. It’s natural. But no way the other team accepts the offer unless it makes sense for them too. It was fair. Rutherford got his guy and we are the deepest team heading into the playoffs, for now.
My rough mental math is it’s the odds the rental ups our chances vs the odds that pick becomes a top 6/4 player.
For comparison, after this trade, the bookies upped our odds from 17:1 to 13:1, or 5.88% to 7.69% which is an almost 30% increase!
I do not think there’s a 30% chance those assets yield a serious impact player.
Superstars up top the roster. Really solid contributing depth throughout. The best d core we have iced since 2011 really. You go for it when the stars align because 10 years between relevancy eats at the soul.
All the depth we have that is actually clicking and looking like a playoff team is not going to be affordable sooner rather than later, and while I trust this FO more than most to find more gems, clearly this trade signals they believe this is what a championship team looks like
Its a high price, but still probably worth it.
The concern I have isn’t really the future damage, its what else those pieces might have got us. Also feels like selling low on Kuz and the 1st and paying the top price for Lindholm.