The jets look like a true cup contender right now. They have so much depth in their line up, starting goalie is fantastic, Win the Stanley cup and you will never hear of this attendance issue again. Go Jets!
One thing I never understand was why Winnipeg does not try to attract fans from south of the border. They are only an hour from the US border and only a couple of hours from the NDU hockey fans in Grand Forks. But they make no effort to get fans to make the trip North. This was true of the old Jets that left in the 90's also. With a little bit of advertising in the US, they just may be able to fill a few more seats.
There is not a chance they expand to Quebec City (or anywhere in Canada). If the Coyotes move to SLC then the expansion will likely be 2 of Atlanta, Houston and back to Phoenix. If the Coyotes don’t move then expansion will be SLC and Atlanta or Houston.
Quebec is the constant relocation threat the NHL has, just like LA was for decades with the NFL. There won’t be a team there unless the Canadian economy improves substantially or they have to move the Jets (so they don’t move another team out of Canada).
The Jets aren't going anywhere, and I don't see the arena being a reason the attendance is down. That said, I don't think there will be another Canadian team via expansion. There's stronger markets in America, plus the Canadian Dollar being worth less than the USD causes issues with making a profit considering players are paid in US Dollars. If a team goes to Canada, it will be via relocation.
For attendance figures, if you look at raw average from last year, the worst are: Arizona (tiny arena, 100% full) Winnipeg (87.6% full in a small arena) Nashville (101% full, I guess small arena) Anaheim (Bad team, 90% full) San Jose (Bad team, 80% full) Vegas (103.5% full, arena could have been bigger)
So i'm not sure those numbers are a fair estimate of who is successful and whos not, because only 2 of those markets are up for debate right now
Btw by percentage: San Jose (80%, terrible team) Buffalo (team that has had little on ice success in the last 10ish years) Winnipeg Anaheim (terrible team) Calgary (trash arena, mid team)
Lots more can go wrong. I just feel it is ownership there being frank that there is a problem that they need to address and fix. It can spiral into something much bigger if it isn't fixed but WPG is not there yet. From what I understand they have not tapped business community fully to buy tickets as much has they should have ,and they got lazy with sales when they were selling out every game for nearly a decade. Current economy does not help either. All should be fine.
Ok I'm disagreeing with you more and more as I watch this video. Let me tell you what I think is going to happen based on what the NHL has been trending towards: 1. Arizona has a 50/50 chance of staying. If the arena isn't settled by the time the Stanley Cup is awarded in June, they will force the owner to sell the team since this should have been handled a long time ago, plus the NHLPA is not pleased with Mullet Arena. I don't see that buyer being Arizona based, so I think should that happen, the Coyotes are 100% moving. I actually don't think this will be to SLC though. Salt Lake needs an arena before the team plays there. I actually think the Rockets owner will buy them and move the team to Houston, since Toyota Center is more-or-less ready to go for hockey (may need a renovation to make it better but it's good enough for now). Alternatively, an NHL capable arena is being constructed in San Diego, so that's a possibility (Group paying for the arena already owns the Avs and they're not going anywhere). 2. Winnipeg stays, but they need to figure out the attendance problem. No new arena 3. Expand to 34 teams in 2030 and 36 by 2035. 2030 adds SLC and Atlanta, By 2035 they add Cincinnati (need an arena first) and Kansas City. Quebec will only happen if either Atlanta fails again and needs to move (in which case the NHL is never returning there) or if the Canadian Dollar stabilizes to something that makes sense for a league with an economy in US Dollars. 4. Keep an eye on the Panthers as a potential relocation team. Has not been profitable and are probably going to need a new arena in the next 10 years. It won't happen soon but something to keep in the back of your mind. Orlando may be a potential new home should that happen, but not if it happens now. I'm not saying they're definitely moving in the next 10-15 years BUT it's a possibility
Those numbers are not accurate! You can go to A Florida or Columbus game and you are kissing the glass for under $100, where as Winnipeg the Nose-Bleeds are $85-$100! You can't compare attendance on numbers alone. Look at the ticket prices! THEN look at the attendance. If Columbus priced like Winnipeg they would be playing to and empty arena!
Depressed Ginger, Portland while having the Moda Center which is almost 30 years old, it can still hold well over 18,000 people for a hockey game and they have the Winterhawks playing there. The arena is actually bigger than Climate Pledge Arena where the Kraken play. Also, they plan on doing a $400 million renovation on the area this year to modernize it. It is more of an NHL ready Arena than you realize.
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The jets look like a true cup contender right now. They have so much depth in their line up, starting goalie is fantastic, Win the Stanley cup and you will never hear of this attendance issue again. Go Jets!
😂😂😂😂😂 ha as a Thrashers fan
Milwaukee
Jesus saves
Gary Bettman hates Canada. I wouldn't be shocked if the Jets are gone and Quebec City gets nothing
The jets have one of the best fanbases in the league, no shot the public would like this.
There’s not enough talent for 32 teams as it is. Expansion would be stupid
That's it! We're goin back to Atlanta.
One thing I never understand was why Winnipeg does not try to attract fans from south of the border. They are only an hour from the US border and only a couple of hours from the NDU hockey fans in Grand Forks. But they make no effort to get fans to make the trip North. This was true of the old Jets that left in the 90's also. With a little bit of advertising in the US, they just may be able to fill a few more seats.
The Winnipeg Jets need to at least renovate this Canada Life Centre to increase the capacity to around 18,000
Watch them Move back to Atlanta LOL
Why not just move Coyotes to Quebec? There is no reason for expansion with talent so diluted.
There is not a chance they expand to Quebec City (or anywhere in Canada). If the Coyotes move to SLC then the expansion will likely be 2 of Atlanta, Houston and back to Phoenix. If the Coyotes don’t move then expansion will be SLC and Atlanta or Houston.
Quebec is the constant relocation threat the NHL has, just like LA was for decades with the NFL. There won’t be a team there unless the Canadian economy improves substantially or they have to move the Jets (so they don’t move another team out of Canada).
They aren’t going anywhere…. a short term problem.
I think Arizona moving to salt lake City then winning jets moving to Quebec ok
To sit in the Lower Bowl in Nationwide Arena your talking $90 a ticket on up.
The Jets aren't going anywhere, and I don't see the arena being a reason the attendance is down. That said, I don't think there will be another Canadian team via expansion. There's stronger markets in America, plus the Canadian Dollar being worth less than the USD causes issues with making a profit considering players are paid in US Dollars. If a team goes to Canada, it will be via relocation.
For attendance figures, if you look at raw average from last year, the worst are:
Arizona (tiny arena, 100% full)
Winnipeg (87.6% full in a small arena)
Nashville (101% full, I guess small arena)
Anaheim (Bad team, 90% full)
San Jose (Bad team, 80% full)
Vegas (103.5% full, arena could have been bigger)
So i'm not sure those numbers are a fair estimate of who is successful and whos not, because only 2 of those markets are up for debate right now
Btw by percentage:
San Jose (80%, terrible team)
Buffalo (team that has had little on ice success in the last 10ish years)
Winnipeg
Anaheim (terrible team)
Calgary (trash arena, mid team)
Lots more can go wrong. I just feel it is ownership there being frank that there is a problem that they need to address and fix. It can spiral into something much bigger if it isn't fixed but WPG is not there yet. From what I understand they have not tapped business community fully to buy tickets as much has they should have ,and they got lazy with sales when they were selling out every game for nearly a decade. Current economy does not help either. All should be fine.
Winnipeg will not relocate. Their arena is fine. Canadas economy seems to be the biggest issue
Ok I'm disagreeing with you more and more as I watch this video. Let me tell you what I think is going to happen based on what the NHL has been trending towards:
1. Arizona has a 50/50 chance of staying. If the arena isn't settled by the time the Stanley Cup is awarded in June, they will force the owner to sell the team since this should have been handled a long time ago, plus the NHLPA is not pleased with Mullet Arena. I don't see that buyer being Arizona based, so I think should that happen, the Coyotes are 100% moving. I actually don't think this will be to SLC though. Salt Lake needs an arena before the team plays there. I actually think the Rockets owner will buy them and move the team to Houston, since Toyota Center is more-or-less ready to go for hockey (may need a renovation to make it better but it's good enough for now). Alternatively, an NHL capable arena is being constructed in San Diego, so that's a possibility (Group paying for the arena already owns the Avs and they're not going anywhere).
2. Winnipeg stays, but they need to figure out the attendance problem. No new arena
3. Expand to 34 teams in 2030 and 36 by 2035. 2030 adds SLC and Atlanta, By 2035 they add Cincinnati (need an arena first) and Kansas City. Quebec will only happen if either Atlanta fails again and needs to move (in which case the NHL is never returning there) or if the Canadian Dollar stabilizes to something that makes sense for a league with an economy in US Dollars.
4. Keep an eye on the Panthers as a potential relocation team. Has not been profitable and are probably going to need a new arena in the next 10 years. It won't happen soon but something to keep in the back of your mind. Orlando may be a potential new home should that happen, but not if it happens now. I'm not saying they're definitely moving in the next 10-15 years BUT it's a possibility
The jets should go back to their classic logo with the hockey stick.
I believe that Quebec City will get the Arizona/Phoenix Coyotes or the Winnipeg Jets should either team relocate
What about the barley?
Those numbers are not accurate! You can go to A Florida or Columbus game and you are kissing the glass for under $100, where as Winnipeg the Nose-Bleeds are $85-$100! You can't compare attendance on numbers alone. Look at the ticket prices! THEN look at the attendance. If Columbus priced like Winnipeg they would be playing to and empty arena!
Depressed Ginger, Portland while having the Moda Center which is almost 30 years old, it can still hold well over 18,000 people for a hockey game and they have the Winterhawks playing there. The arena is actually bigger than Climate Pledge Arena where the Kraken play. Also, they plan on doing a $400 million renovation on the area this year to modernize it. It is more of an NHL ready Arena than you realize.