Comparaison des listes après la date limite des échanges des Oilers d’Edmonton | 2023 contre 2024
Le fanatique des Oilers effectue une comparaison de la liste après la date limite des échanges, 2023 par rapport à 2024. #Oilers #LetsGoOilers #EdmontonOilers
Likely to see vegas or kings … Will need all 4 lines going. We saw the vegas series how playoffs was mainly 5 on 5.
Playoffs alot about 4 lines deep n filling out the roles.
Playoff line up ?
Rnh mcdavid hyman Mcleod drais foeogle Kane Enrique brown Holloway carrick perry
Ekholm bouchard Nurse Desharnais Kulak ceci
Skinner Picard
Skecher – really like to see some time with nurse. Has some Exp in top 4, sound positionally. Strong puck retriever and passer. Better puck mover than Desharnais n ceci. Desharnais has struggled moving the puck in the top 4 role. Solid defender. . But getting the puck to the fwds up stream not as good so far.
Depth
Broberg skech Gleason kemp Dineen wanner
Campbell Rodriguez
Janmark ryan gags Ernes hamblin lavoie Caggulia Pedersen griffth
But people need to know that vinny and nurse will be more effective when they play on the same line together, and Vinny is defense defense, hes not really a goal scorer and i would rather pay big money for a defense that will defense and stop pucks over a dman that scores goals but cant defend… and when the playoffs start Campbell is more effective so maybe we will see him
Kris knoblauch knows the players he’s working with and he definitely see something with nurse and desharnais and kulak and Ceci that most fans wouldn’t notice. If the pairings were worse with each other then why are they still together
I feel like aside from the start, this year's team is more stable. Looking forward to see how the new guys settle in and perform once they learn the systems
Last year Skinner looked bad during the playoffs and Woodcraft refused to take a try on Campbell. Knoblauch does not have much feeling toward Skinner. I hope he makes the right choice this year because Vegas won their Cup with their backup goalie. Desharnais was a rookie defenseman last year, he is a much-improved player this year.
the key is kane. if he can be consistent and well defensively , he can play with mcd and hyman. rnh can move to 3rd line with henri and perry. this instantly better.also the pp coach has to come up with something better because it has been cold even 5-3 pp.
Interesting to compare… Not sure that GM improved much, other than spend the future draft picks… so mostly up to the effort the players bring… & if they learned to not make bad penalties/low iq plays esp Nurse & Bouchard… hopefully they all do well. Nurse & Ceci seem worse than last year? but may have learned to make less bad penalties and low iq plays. Team couldn't score… & GM job was to seek a finisher for top6. Unfortunately he chose Brown who did not work out and will take $3m from next yr. He & Yamamoto seem similar. I'm not sure that Carrick is an upgrade over Gagner/Ryan – Ryan has been one of Oilers best in clutch… As for weather Henrique & Perry can deliver more than Bjugstad & Kostin – I'm not sure. but glad the AHL/League min Picard is kind of saving the team… As for the 1st line, don't forget McD had 153 pts last yr and RNH 104… they are scoring about half of what they scored last year?
There is something seriously wrong with Janmark. 10 points this season so far in 52 games. -15 career. Unless he magically starts playing better, he is not that helpful. But whatever the case, he is a much worse player than this year which no doubt is a big problem.
Oilers 4th line is a nightmare. They got nothing. What I would recommend is to ask the 4th line to focus almost exclusively on defense and not try to score goals.
I think overall, this years roster is much brighter looking than last years. I do have to admit that I disagree about the D pairings though. I think nurse and desharnais are the better pairing. Desharnais allows nurse to be more like Bouchard, which is where nurse does tend to thrive, he showed in prior years that he can be a offensive defenseman and desharnais is more like ekholm, great passing, great defensive player too. I see this as an upgrade!!😊💙🧡 I believe in this team and I think Henrique and Carrick and Perry gives an even better chance!!😊 just need some chemistry to grow, which I see it is!!
It's not a good idea to have two weaker defensemen Kulak and Desharnais on the same line. Desharnais can learn from Nurse. I agree with the new setup. Nurse has not been playing well all season. Desharnais is a beast with +21 which will help increase Nurse's plus minus playing with Desharnais.
Prefer this years . Can dream to have last year’s 4th line . The team also has depth in Bakersfield should the lines not work . Coach can adjust the lines depending on the opposing team’s lineup. Looking forward to seeing how the team will perform. Thanks Patrick
Agree totally about Bjugstad and Kostin. I really wish we could've kept them. I remember thinking at the time they left – "boy, we're gonna miss them!" – and I was right.
Going into this year's playoffs, I'm hopeful but nervous. I'm still not confident this group can put it all together and keep it together for four rounds. I hope I'm wrong. That 6 weeks of stench to start the season is still fresh in my mind. It seems inconceivable that the same team that sh*t the bed that bad could then turn around and put 16 wins together but that's what worries me. I just don't know which team is gonna show up.
Let's see, Columbus, Buffalo, forecheck the Oilers hard, win the game, Pittsburg, weak forecheck, lose the game. Coffey, teach those defense how to deal with a strong forecheck.
Not sure why you hate Vinny. He's a 7th round pick who's put in the work down in the ECHL, then the farm team, and then willed his way into the NHL. He's paid league minimum and now has had to take over Ceci's job. IMHO, Desharnais is underpaid and is over-delivering in his play. He clears the front of the net and eats shots when needed.
Does he make mistakes? Absolutely. Was he overwhelmed in the playoffs last year? Of course he was. Though he's an older spohmore, he's still just on his second season and has improved so much that this winning coach is putting him in the top 4!
Ken Holland didn't want to mess with team chemistry? That doesn't sound good. Almost sounds like an excuse for not going big for players like Guentzel or Toffoli. Was that a problem for Winnipeg? Nope. Vegas? Nope. Carolina? Nope. They went big all the way. Henrique, Carrick and Stetcher are underwhelming additions. Looks like it's going to take a little time for Henrique to find his way with the team. Team chemistry! Carrick gets in a fight first period of first game with new team sticking up for one of his new teammates. That earns respect. A lot of respect. He may not be as good a player as Bjugstad, but he does bring some added grit and toughness. Adding him and Perry to the team makes the Oilers harder to play against. They need that. Skinner's the man though. Will be a lot of pressure on him to be an impenetrable wall in the playoffs. Oilers will only go as far as the defense and goaltending will take them. That Carrick thing was really cool. He deliberately switched places with Janmark. You could see him talking to the Columbus player whose name escapes me for the moment. Nurse was tapping the ice with his stick because he could hear what they were saying and knew they were going to fight. I can't say I really miss the fighting. I'd rather see the talent of the players than having guys throwing punches at each other. These guys are better on skates than we are on our own two feet. What's that joke? Went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out. But a lot of respect for Carrick. That said, you can see hockey fights from back in the day on You Tube. Try Link Gaetz vs. Bob Probert.
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Let's hope this year's roster will win it all.😤
Thankyou Oilers 🇨🇦😁
I agree this years rosterboverblast years roster
Oilers need go old school with 😂these lines 🇨🇦😁🔥
Hopefully somebof the boys from Bakersfield can get a game or 2 in before the playoffs
Likely to see vegas or kings …
Will need all 4 lines going. We saw the vegas series how playoffs was mainly 5 on 5.
Playoffs alot about 4 lines deep n filling out the roles.
Playoff line up ?
Rnh mcdavid hyman
Mcleod drais foeogle
Kane Enrique brown
Holloway carrick perry
Ekholm bouchard
Nurse Desharnais
Kulak ceci
Skinner
Picard
Skecher – really like to see some time with nurse. Has some Exp in top 4, sound positionally. Strong puck retriever and passer. Better puck mover than Desharnais n ceci. Desharnais has struggled moving the puck in the top 4 role. Solid defender. . But getting the puck to the fwds up stream not as good so far.
Depth
Broberg skech
Gleason kemp
Dineen wanner
Campbell
Rodriguez
Janmark ryan gags
Ernes hamblin lavoie
Caggulia Pedersen griffth
Don't play around with transparent evidence 🔥🇨🇦
Stuart Skinner may be the story of the year 😁🇨🇦
Goaltending ✔😁🇨🇦
But people need to know that vinny and nurse will be more effective when they play on the same line together, and Vinny is defense defense, hes not really a goal scorer and i would rather pay big money for a defense that will defense and stop pucks over a dman that scores goals but cant defend… and when the playoffs start Campbell is more effective so maybe we will see him
Nice when goaltending comes from within 😂🔥🇨🇦
Kris knoblauch knows the players he’s working with and he definitely see something with nurse and desharnais and kulak and Ceci that most fans wouldn’t notice. If the pairings were worse with each other then why are they still together
Thanks for your update Patrick. Another win moving in the right direction 🙌
I feel like aside from the start, this year's team is more stable. Looking forward to see how the new guys settle in and perform once they learn the systems
This year's Desharnais is a huge upgrade over last year's Desharnais. He is the most improved player on the team by a wide margin.
Brown not a goal scorer but he wins some battles and I hope he surprised us in the playoffs lol LGO
Last year Skinner looked bad during the playoffs and Woodcraft refused to take a try on Campbell. Knoblauch does not have much feeling toward Skinner. I hope he makes the right choice this year because Vegas won their Cup with their backup goalie.
Desharnais was a rookie defenseman last year, he is a much-improved player this year.
holloway on the 4th line in the playoffs may be a slight improvement.
This years 4th you could drop Ryan or Gagner in to substitute for Brown if he continues to lay an egg.
Imagine if 4th line
Carrick Bjugstad Kostin
What a set of bruisers
the key is kane. if he can be consistent and well defensively , he can play with mcd and hyman. rnh can move to 3rd line with henri and perry. this instantly better.also the pp coach has to come up with something better because it has been cold even 5-3 pp.
I think this year's D is better because both Bouchard and Desharnais have improved with one more year under their belts.
Interesting to compare… Not sure that GM improved much, other than spend the future draft picks… so mostly up to the effort the players bring… & if they learned to not make bad penalties/low iq plays esp Nurse & Bouchard… hopefully they all do well. Nurse & Ceci seem worse than last year? but may have learned to make less bad penalties and low iq plays.
Team couldn't score… & GM job was to seek a finisher for top6. Unfortunately he chose Brown who did not work out and will take $3m from next yr. He & Yamamoto seem similar. I'm not sure that Carrick is an upgrade over Gagner/Ryan – Ryan has been one of Oilers best in clutch… As for weather Henrique & Perry can deliver more than Bjugstad & Kostin – I'm not sure.
but glad the AHL/League min Picard is kind of saving the team… As for the 1st line, don't forget McD had 153 pts last yr and RNH 104… they are scoring about half of what they scored last year?
The problem with Bjugstad is he is a -19 career player so to get rid of him will be an improvement.
There is something seriously wrong with Janmark. 10 points this season so far in 52 games. -15 career. Unless he magically starts playing better, he is not that helpful. But whatever the case, he is a much worse player than this year which no doubt is a big problem.
Oilers 4th line is a nightmare. They got nothing. What I would recommend is to ask the 4th line to focus almost exclusively on defense and not try to score goals.
I think overall, this years roster is much brighter looking than last years. I do have to admit that I disagree about the D pairings though. I think nurse and desharnais are the better pairing. Desharnais allows nurse to be more like Bouchard, which is where nurse does tend to thrive, he showed in prior years that he can be a offensive defenseman and desharnais is more like ekholm, great passing, great defensive player too. I see this as an upgrade!!😊💙🧡 I believe in this team and I think Henrique and Carrick and Perry gives an even better chance!!😊 just need some chemistry to grow, which I see it is!!
But Oilers have the fewest goals against all season so why would you change Nurse/Ceci to Nurse/Desharnais?
It's not a good idea to have two weaker defensemen Kulak and Desharnais on the same line. Desharnais can learn from Nurse. I agree with the new setup. Nurse has not been playing well all season. Desharnais is a beast with +21 which will help increase Nurse's plus minus playing with Desharnais.
4th line should never play offense.
MOST IMPORTANT — THE 4TH LINE MUST PLAY ONLY DEFENSE
Prefer this years . Can dream to have last year’s 4th line . The team also has depth in Bakersfield should the lines not work . Coach can adjust the lines depending on the opposing team’s lineup. Looking forward to seeing how the team will perform. Thanks Patrick
If Kane isnt on the line with mcdavid he wont be as effective. We need kane scoring and involved.
Agree totally about Bjugstad and Kostin. I really wish we could've kept them. I remember thinking at the time they left – "boy, we're gonna miss them!" – and I was right.
Going into this year's playoffs, I'm hopeful but nervous. I'm still not confident this group can put it all together and keep it together for four rounds. I hope I'm wrong. That 6 weeks of stench to start the season is still fresh in my mind. It seems inconceivable that the same team that sh*t the bed that bad could then turn around and put 16 wins together but that's what worries me. I just don't know which team is gonna show up.
Hey if VGK would be in 8th spot maybe they will have a tougher time versus
the top spot Vancouver Canucks!”
The new roster is missing a top 10 goalie
Let's see, Columbus, Buffalo, forecheck the Oilers hard, win the game, Pittsburg, weak forecheck, lose the game. Coffey, teach those defense how to deal with a strong forecheck.
how do you justify benching Carrick and playing Ryan? How is brown still playing? Should have been traded for something better
Not sure why you hate Vinny. He's a 7th round pick who's put in the work down in the ECHL, then the farm team, and then willed his way into the NHL. He's paid league minimum and now has had to take over Ceci's job. IMHO, Desharnais is underpaid and is over-delivering in his play. He clears the front of the net and eats shots when needed.
Does he make mistakes? Absolutely. Was he overwhelmed in the playoffs last year? Of course he was. Though he's an older spohmore, he's still just on his second season and has improved so much that this winning coach is putting him in the top 4!
Sorry have to disagree about the Nurse and Desharnais was brilliant. Ceci should have been traded off ages ago
Ken Holland didn't want to mess with team chemistry? That doesn't sound good. Almost sounds like an excuse for not going big for players like Guentzel or Toffoli. Was that a problem for Winnipeg? Nope. Vegas? Nope. Carolina? Nope. They went big all the way. Henrique, Carrick and Stetcher are underwhelming additions. Looks like it's going to take a little time for Henrique to find his way with the team. Team chemistry! Carrick gets in a fight first period of first game with new team sticking up for one of his new teammates. That earns respect. A lot of respect. He may not be as good a player as Bjugstad, but he does bring some added grit and toughness. Adding him and Perry to the team makes the Oilers harder to play against. They need that. Skinner's the man though. Will be a lot of pressure on him to be an impenetrable wall in the playoffs. Oilers will only go as far as the defense and goaltending will take them. That Carrick thing was really cool. He deliberately switched places with Janmark. You could see him talking to the Columbus player whose name escapes me for the moment. Nurse was tapping the ice with his stick because he could hear what they were saying and knew they were going to fight. I can't say I really miss the fighting. I'd rather see the talent of the players than having guys throwing punches at each other. These guys are better on skates than we are on our own two feet. What's that joke? Went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out. But a lot of respect for Carrick. That said, you can see hockey fights from back in the day on You Tube. Try Link Gaetz vs. Bob Probert.