Pettersson being our best forward on this is sure going to make a select group angry
corh13
Yeah Hronek is not getting that money.
De_Floppss
Give Zadorov the Hronkey money.
Also Petey being 3rd on this chart is going to elicit a very strong response
x3nuzzles
When graph shows petey good: “these graphs are stupid”
When graph shows petey bad: “omg bottom left petey”
K00knucks
Hronek doesn’t have very good decision-making skills on the offensive side which is a problem because Hughes can create so much space for him
Zadorov was great until that bad pinch on the first goal against.
Wish Pettersson got a better shot off… oh well.
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cosalich
Sometimes when everyone is a black hole of offence it’s actually just a great defensive effort on the other side.
BriscoCounty83
Zadorov playing like prime Pronger out there laying the boom left,right and center. His extension should be a priority.
Triangle_Inequality
I thought Petey was pretty good tonight. Not a bad effort by the team overall, but man… This team has another gear that they’re just incapable of reaching right now.
VancityRenaults
Hronek has been our worst defenseman this series. I would feel completely ok if we do not re-sign him.
lilmagooby
The only surprises to me are Lindholm and Cole. Lindholm was doing great on the forecheck, I swear he held the puck in half a dozen times and created chances out of nowhere.
Cole had one really bad giveaway in the 2nd, surprised his defensive impact was so positive
rengorengar
Defensively Petey was good which checks out, offensively though we got nothing out of him and that’s what we need out of him and i’m sure that’s where a lot of the frustrations of most of the fanbase comes from.
certainly better than his previous games, but we need more than him to just be a defensive specialist.
RedditrIHardlyKnewR
Ahhh the omniscient wisdom of statistics done incorrectly.
(No, I don’t respond to reddit comments, too much AI silliness. But if you’re curious, you could look up how random distribution is a fundamental requirement for valid statistics including most regression models etc. The same formulas tend to work in other sports because unlike hockey, there isn’t really line matching.)
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BottomLeftHronek
AccomplishedAd4995
this matches the eye test, petey didn’t even look bad at all this game, imo his best game so far
carry-on_replacement
Hronek is concerning. Refuses to shoot, causing ghastly turnovers and being a non-factor in general. We can’t possibly pay this guy 8M a year right?
paaulywrath
Honestly outside of 12 seconds of game 1 and OT in game 4, the Joshua-Lindholm-Garland line isnt really looking all that dangerous.
Fourmanaseven7
Best game for Petey by far this series. Seems like the Garland line has been held in check since the first game though (or at least not super dominating like they’ve been most of this season).
starrynova888
Trade Hronek
One_End_3962
That Zadorov goal just gets more and more beautiful on rewatch
55argynt
Could someone explain what I’m looking at? I’m newer to hockey so I don’t know all the analytics.
ScarvesOnGiraffes
People need to chill a bit on Hronek imo. Yes he’s not playing amazingly well, but top 4 puck moving RHD defensemen don’t grow on trees. This is the first time he’s ever been in the playoffs and I question whether he’s banged up. He’s an RFA and still has a lot of potential to improve. If anything, him underperforming these playoffs should diminish his bargaining power and I don’t see how we can replace him long-term unless it’s someone much older like Tanev.
Yes Zadorov is playing beastly and I love him but he also had a large portion of this season where he didn’t look great and this is probably his career peak (when he’s a UFA next year, go figure). Although the playoffs should have a bigger influence on decision making, at the same time we can’t make knee jerk decisions off small portions of the season.
I like both players and think we should keep both but I guess what I’m trying to say is that we shouldn’t go completely sour on Hronek. Have faith that management can work this all out because they’ve got a tough job ahead of them this off-season
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Pettersson being our best forward on this is sure going to make a select group angry
Yeah Hronek is not getting that money.
Give Zadorov the Hronkey money.
Also Petey being 3rd on this chart is going to elicit a very strong response
When graph shows petey good: “these graphs are stupid”
When graph shows petey bad: “omg bottom left petey”
Hronek doesn’t have very good decision-making skills on the offensive side which is a problem because Hughes can create so much space for him
Zadorov was great until that bad pinch on the first goal against.
Wish Pettersson got a better shot off… oh well.
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Sometimes when everyone is a black hole of offence it’s actually just a great defensive effort on the other side.
Zadorov playing like prime Pronger out there laying the boom left,right and center. His extension should be a priority.
I thought Petey was pretty good tonight. Not a bad effort by the team overall, but man… This team has another gear that they’re just incapable of reaching right now.
Hronek has been our worst defenseman this series. I would feel completely ok if we do not re-sign him.
The only surprises to me are Lindholm and Cole. Lindholm was doing great on the forecheck, I swear he held the puck in half a dozen times and created chances out of nowhere.
Cole had one really bad giveaway in the 2nd, surprised his defensive impact was so positive
Defensively Petey was good which checks out, offensively though we got nothing out of him and that’s what we need out of him and i’m sure that’s where a lot of the frustrations of most of the fanbase comes from.
certainly better than his previous games, but we need more than him to just be a defensive specialist.
Ahhh the omniscient wisdom of statistics done incorrectly.
(No, I don’t respond to reddit comments, too much AI silliness. But if you’re curious, you could look up how random distribution is a fundamental requirement for valid statistics including most regression models etc. The same formulas tend to work in other sports because unlike hockey, there isn’t really line matching.)
BottomLeftHronek
this matches the eye test, petey didn’t even look bad at all this game, imo his best game so far
Hronek is concerning. Refuses to shoot, causing ghastly turnovers and being a non-factor in general. We can’t possibly pay this guy 8M a year right?
Honestly outside of 12 seconds of game 1 and OT in game 4, the Joshua-Lindholm-Garland line isnt really looking all that dangerous.
Best game for Petey by far this series. Seems like the Garland line has been held in check since the first game though (or at least not super dominating like they’ve been most of this season).
Trade Hronek
That Zadorov goal just gets more and more beautiful on rewatch
Could someone explain what I’m looking at? I’m newer to hockey so I don’t know all the analytics.
People need to chill a bit on Hronek imo. Yes he’s not playing amazingly well, but top 4 puck moving RHD defensemen don’t grow on trees. This is the first time he’s ever been in the playoffs and I question whether he’s banged up. He’s an RFA and still has a lot of potential to improve. If anything, him underperforming these playoffs should diminish his bargaining power and I don’t see how we can replace him long-term unless it’s someone much older like Tanev.
Yes Zadorov is playing beastly and I love him but he also had a large portion of this season where he didn’t look great and this is probably his career peak (when he’s a UFA next year, go figure). Although the playoffs should have a bigger influence on decision making, at the same time we can’t make knee jerk decisions off small portions of the season.
I like both players and think we should keep both but I guess what I’m trying to say is that we shouldn’t go completely sour on Hronek. Have faith that management can work this all out because they’ve got a tough job ahead of them this off-season
Has anyone seen Hronek?