Flyers Daily avec Jason Myrtetus : Une édition du lundi avec Bill Meltzer où nous examinons l’intersaison des Flyers qui n’a pas été pleine de soustractions et d’ajouts. Nous discutons des raisons pour lesquelles c’est le cas et de l’effet que cela aura sur la saison à venir et au-delà. Les sujets particuliers incluent : le silence de la prolongation de Konecny, la prolongation de Fedotov, le repêchage de la LNH, les joueurs dont on parle comme possibles pièces d’échange restantes et bien plus encore.
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I'm in Australia.. The Flyers are my team. Monday nights always teaches me something about the game. Jason and Billl are great
Id rather them make no moves than bad moves. I would also like to see them play a bunch of the younger guys and if we don't do so well… I don't care. That just means our future is getting more experience and we are going to end up with better placement in the draft. Seems like a win win.
It has always been the contract length that worries me the most about any Konecny deal. An 8 year deal expires when he is 36. The team needs to learn the lesson they should have learned with the Couturier deal. If they could sign him for 3 or 4 years I would gladly take the 10 million cap hit.
Scott Laughton…..Flyer for life, future president of the alumni association.
Good god…..
Laughton has been absolutely abysmal. Some of the worst metrics in the NHL.
Defensively, Laughton was one of the worst players in the league. Out of the NHL’s 182 skaters who had at least 1,000 minutes of ice time, Laughton was 169th in expected goals percentage (xGF%) at 43.1 percent. Furthermore, he ranked 141st in expected goals against per 60 (xGA/60) at 3.23. Combining putrid on-ice defense with below-average offense hurt the entire team.Of the Flyers’ 20 non-Laughton skaters who appeared in at least 20 games in 2023-24, not a single one of them had a better even-strength xGF% with the centerman than without him. On-ice stats aren’t the be-all-end-all for a player, but it is certainly not a good sight that every single notable athlete on the team saw regression the moment he was on the ice. In this sense, the Flyers might have made the playoffs if they just didn’t play him at all. They were a dominant team at generating scoring opportunities unless Laughton was on the ice.On the surface, it would seem like Laughton had a decent season. He had 13 goals and 26 assists for 39 points in 82 contests, and his minus-9 rating wasn’t all that bad. Averaging 15:39 of ice time, it would seem like he was a solid middle-six player for the Orange and Black. Taking a deeper look at it, though, that just wasn’t the case at all.
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For starters, he only shot at a 7.8 percent rate, so his offensive efficiency was not the greatest. Based on the eye test, he just didn’t look as involved offensively as he has in the past. He has more skill than he sometimes gets credit for, but he definitely took a step back on that front – he did little to stand out positively. He had his moments, but he just wasn’t as good offensively as his points might suggest.
Getting to one of his bigger issues, Laughton couldn’t stay out of the box. He took needless penalties far too often, finishing with a team-leading 27 minor penalties. Among all of the 924 NHL skaters in 2023-24, he was tied for the 29th-most minor penalties taken. Discipline was definitely an issue for him – not even the Flyers’ fourth-best penalty kill could come through every time.
Instead of being a middle-six forward, he seems to be more fit as a low-end depth player. Considering he is making $3 million on his contract through the 2025-26 season, that’s an awful lot to pay for someone best suited to be a 13th forward.
Laughton’s struggles have been ongoing for a while now, and it’s unfortunate to see, as he once was a solid player. In 2020-21 when he signed his extension, he had a 2.12 xGA/60 and a 52.6 xGF%. Scoring 20 points in 53 contests to go along with that, he deserved a pay raise. It just so happens that he hasn’t been very good ever since.
Laughton's "culture" AND play was and has been horrible.
And it's NOT just an opinion.
You can literally prove it with math.
Briere already got FLEECED in Anaheim for another LTIR nightmare. 🤷♂️
This same core has went the wrong way down the stretch how many seasons now?
Hoe long have Sanheim, Couturier, and Laughton been here playing the same mediocre laxadaisy game year after year.
Not one significant play driving Center on this team you can rely on for any kind of consistency.
Amd just running it back again. 🤦🏻♂️
They'll pay Konecny and pretend the CAP is going to go up and save The Flyers from the next albatross of a horribly overpaid contract.
Imagine paying 21m aav a year for Konecny(10m) Laughton(3m) and Couturier(8m).
This team cannot win anything but the draft lottery after they buy out Couturier.
Why is Couturier not being considered for a Buyout?
Couturier's contract is going to look worse and worse as the years go by. Sanheim's doesn’t look great. Laughton is overpaid. This team has the same failing core.
No way to move on from them.
And no plan to draft anywhere near where they need to.
The "culture" these guys in management are obsessed with is the EXACT failing formula that keeps this team in painful mediocrity and draft purgatory.
Just like passing on Buium.
I have Patience for a LEGIT REBUILD with 4-5 top5 picks.
Not this same 🤡💩.
To people who are still anti tank/rebuild Why?
Since the 2008-2009 season
9/14 cup winners were teams that had high end talent from either intentionally tanking to get a high pick and or rebuilding to the point where it ended up getting them a top pick
Penguins 3x
Blackhawks 3x
Lightning 2x
Avalanche 1x
Of the remaining 5
Blues 1x
Capitals 1x
Kings 2x
Bruins 1x
The capitals can absolutely be put into the category alongside the Avalanche Lightning Penguins and Blackhawks but I like to play devils advocate.
The kings got a tad bit lucky with taking advantage of the Carter-Richards debacle as well.
The Blues (2019) and Bruins (2011) are the two examples that I often see the people who don't want to tank use as examples but they got pretty lucky in their advancements to the Stanley Cup.
Other teams that I hear given as examples to not tank are
The Oilers: although they have failed to succeed in a cup, they are far more likely to do so then we are in the next decade and I would be willing to bet they succeed even with their incompetence management wise.
The Sabres: Yea. Fair enough
The Devils: Currently 14-3 still with high end prospects and young players
The Leafs: Cursed. But again far more likely than we are to win a cup this decade
From the past 15 years of data we can either hope to hit massively on late round picks, like the bruins, or have a fluky run with a goalie getting hot at the right time, like the blues.
OR
We can blow it up and sell any player outside of Hart and players under 25 or so(even though they should be available for the right place) intentionally tank for 5 ish years and get the talent we need to win a Stanley Cup
This draft would be an amazing starting point as really any of the top 5 picks should be franchise changing players.
P.S for the love of god fire Chuck Fletcher.
Flyers’ “New Era of Orange” Repeating Past Era Failures
The Philadelphia Flyers completed their first round of the 2024 NHL Draft, and, well, it was a shocker, to say the least. They made the most surprising pick of the night by taking Jett Luchanko with their 13th overall selection, who was a second-round graded player by many. With arguably the best defensive prospect that we have seen in the last few seasons, Zeev Buium, miraculously on the board but the Flyers choosing to trade back a spot, this was definitely a questionable decision.
Really, it’s not about the player. Luchanko could theoretically be a fantastic roster fit for the Orange and Black in the future. Plus, there are actually some things to like about him, but that’s a conversation for another day. Simply, this is not the type of pick that you’d expect out of the Flyers in their “New Era of Orange,” but rather, one you’d expect from the failed eras of the past. It wasn’t just the pick, either—this was a long time coming. The red flags were waving long before June 28.
The Flyers Reached Despite Being in a Rebuild
In theory, passing on one of the most intelligent players in the 2024 class who put up the most incredible offensive totals for a draft-year defenseman that we have ever seen in the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) for a player who doesn’t have any star traits other than his skating—a trait in which Buium excels in, too—probably isn’t a good idea. Again, it’s not that Luchanko can’t succeed—he is still a teenager and could reach some untapped potential. At the end of the day, though, you are drafting based on what you see out of these young men in the present and what they project to be in the future.
Just to paint a picture, HockeyProspecting has Buium at an 81 percent chance to be an NHLer with a 73 percent chance to become a star. Luchanko, on the other hand, was projected at a 56 percent chance to be an NHL player and a 21 percent chance to be a star. Things can obviously change considering Luchanko is one of the younger players in the class, but this is not the way you’d like to see a team in a rebuild operate. Needing the best player at every turn, the Flyers reached quite a bit. Luchanko can be a great second-line center if he develops well, but the risk is passing on an elite first-pairing defense.
Luchanko is more likely a potential bottom6 Center and we just passed on an Elite ceiling potential #1 Defenseman? Why? His agent?
His friends?
Here's a wake up call for you guys!
Fire whomever Buium, Gauthier, Zegras, and McGroarty, doesn't like and stop building a team around a coach who ISN'T EVEN GOING TO BE HERE IN 3 YEARS!
This is insanity!
Can't rebuild an organization from the bottom to the top time after time and wonder why your failing. 🤷♂️
We're in these endless Rebuilds because we're making the same 🤡💩 mistakes year after year!
Imagine if The Flyers would've just added Buium and Lindstrom to Michkov and Gauthier!!!
Scott Wheeler just ranked his Top 100 NHL- drafted prospects for the summer
No. 2: Matvei Michkov
No. 5: Zeev Buium
No. 13: Gabe Perreault
No. 19: Cutter Gauthier
No. 22: Konsta Helenius
No. 50: Oliver Bonk
Not ranked: Jett Luchanko
🤦🏻♂️😩
You think doing this year after year and failing the same way time aftwr time would switch this management's formula but apparently it hasn't.
Maybe 5 yrs at $8 million per yr for TK would be reasonable
Laughton is the DEI hire of The Philadelphia Flyers. 🤷♂️
Most teams won't take Laughton if you added a 1st round pick.
Only another team with Dinosaurs in the office are going to give up anything for Laughton.
Flyers best chance is to strip it down and draft an elite potential prospect who projects as a 1C.
This team is MUCH farther away from a Cup than Buffalo or Toronto.
And has ANYONE considered the precedent your about to set paying 70 point ceiling Konecny who can't score in the playoffs a 9m aav?
So what are they paying Michkov when he scores 100 points?
Ehat are they paying a LEGIT 1C who can score 40 goals and a point per game?
Giving Konecny anything comparable to Reinhart will be an abysmal failure for this organization AND set the precedent of contract failures for many years to come.
Just like they just did with Couturier, Sanheim, and Ristolainen.
This team NEEDS ELITE CEILING prospects. Anything else is LITERALLY irrelevant at this point.
Konecny is a 7m dollar player.
He wouldn't gwt mote than an 8m aav in FREE AGENCY!
Why tf would The rebuilding Flyers overpay a player who's going to keep them in draft purgatory.