barzal, although marner is the most valuable player here overall
LumbaJ4cked
We saw last year if Barzal isn’t a point per game scorer NYI stands still while their goalies post one of the lowest GAA in NHL
darthjeary
Barzal. Isles suck but suck worse without him.
duck1014
In order:
Marner
Marner
Marner
and finally
Marner.
DKY_207
I think it may be Aho but just slightly over Barzal. He’s a great player on a great team but I don’t think they would have won the metro last year without him.
makarmackinnonstan
Islanders without barzal=big yikes
squadracorse15
I think Aho is the most valuable overall, but the Isles are way more dependant on Barzal than the Canes are on Aho.
mymothershorse
Marner is a tier above the other three so… Marner.
B-WesT84
Easy. The future captain mr. Aho.
Seblaf37
Aho
imcletchie
Barzal. Not even close
Marner has Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Rielly, etc. a very good core
Aho is terrific. But Carolina has solid forwards around him – Svechnikov, Teravainen – and their D core is very very solid
St Louis has great veterans. A lot of good, solid pieces. Kyrou and Thomas are the next ones, but the Blues have good players around them in all positions
Barzal has a floundering Bailey and Nelson. Lee is decent. Their blueline is Dobson and….?
Easy choice
Several_Tangerine956
Canes fan here I say Aho.
Major stud and without him we would struggle
KrebsCollector
Barzal, maybe Aho but the Canes have other players to rely on. The Isles don’t really have a star besides Barzal
fox4norris2021
Aho easily
GoPensGo8758
Id say Marner and pretty easily, the player who’s most valuable is also the best player. Even if you want to look at it the other way Barzal hasn’t even been a point per game scorer in 4 years and isn’t nearly as good as Marner defensively
Agreeable-Shower-909
Seabass 100%. The other 3 can’t make the playoffs/make out of the first round WITH these players on the team
PauseAmbitious6899
Aho
magicandfire
Aho ❤️
Fit_Bandicoot1933
Mitch marner he has an assist on every matthews goal if it wasn’t for his speed and passing matthews would not have so many goals
Markussh98
Marner is getting a bit underrated here. I agree Barzal and Aho are more valuable overall to their team just because they don’t have the same supporting cast but when Marner didn’t show up in the playoffs in 2021 the Leafs fell apart. His play this year helped them push the bolts to the brink. If the leafs ever make it out of the first round with this core he is going to be a huge part of that.
ZzzMe0wMe0w
The one in the top 10 in scoring.
UkeManSteve
Marner. Overshadowed by matthews but is a big step up from any of these players. Just because he’s not the best on the team doesn’t mean he doesn’t provide as much value as Barzal for Christ sake lol
UopuV7
I’m gonna say Barzal because his team doesn’t have as much offensive prowess overall compared to the other guys. If he was in Aho’s place I think they’d produce similarly, but water is worth more to the thirsty
I think marner as a leafs fan. I realize that most people who aren’t leafs fans wouldn’t notice as much of a difference compared to spread of other teams
Kissarmy63
As much as I can’t stand The Leafs or their fans it Marner for me.
Lucybruin
Brad Marchand
onbiver9871
Barzy feels a bit like he’s on a roster… island… so I’d say him.
justaguy826
This is a 2-man race between Aho & Barzal. Legitimate arguments could be made for either, but I think it’s Barzal.
Ima_mustard_myself
Barzal is hold the islanders together
Hopfit46
Barzal because his team is most devoid of talent…
Arfguy
I personally think Mitch Marner is the most valuable to the Leafs than any of the other players on this thread.
I also think that Mat Barzal’s play style is all wrong for Islanders. What I would give to see Mat Barzal in a Detroit Red Wings jersey!
Aho is a great player on a really great team. Carolina has somehow figured out how to draft and build a team better than so many other teams (*coughcoughEdmontonOilerscoughcough*).
Basically the same thing about Kyrou as Ago, but to a lesser extent.
zlohth
Probably Barzal. NYI doesn’t have much on the way of top-flight offense behind him.
Rupdy71
Most valuable to his team is Aho, then Barzal. Marner is the best player of the four.
LongestJohnSilvers
Barzal. Name the second best player for each team
MightSuggestSex
Barzal hands down
thunderj9
Barzal cuz the isles suck rn. Mitch Marner has Auston Matthews, another break out star. The Isles have no other big names.
michiganhockeyguy
Aho is amazing. He is definitely a big part of their success!
Piccolo_11
Probably Barzal. Marner is the best player but he has Matthews with him.
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Wtf are the isles without barzal
barzal, although marner is the most valuable player here overall
We saw last year if Barzal isn’t a point per game scorer NYI stands still while their goalies post one of the lowest GAA in NHL
Barzal. Isles suck but suck worse without him.
In order:
Marner
Marner
Marner
and finally
Marner.
I think it may be Aho but just slightly over Barzal. He’s a great player on a great team but I don’t think they would have won the metro last year without him.
Islanders without barzal=big yikes
I think Aho is the most valuable overall, but the Isles are way more dependant on Barzal than the Canes are on Aho.
Marner is a tier above the other three so… Marner.
Easy. The future captain mr. Aho.
Aho
Barzal. Not even close
Marner has Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Rielly, etc. a very good core
Aho is terrific. But Carolina has solid forwards around him – Svechnikov, Teravainen – and their D core is very very solid
St Louis has great veterans. A lot of good, solid pieces. Kyrou and Thomas are the next ones, but the Blues have good players around them in all positions
Barzal has a floundering Bailey and Nelson. Lee is decent. Their blueline is Dobson and….?
Easy choice
Canes fan here I say Aho.
Major stud and without him we would struggle
Barzal, maybe Aho but the Canes have other players to rely on. The Isles don’t really have a star besides Barzal
Aho easily
Id say Marner and pretty easily, the player who’s most valuable is also the best player. Even if you want to look at it the other way Barzal hasn’t even been a point per game scorer in 4 years and isn’t nearly as good as Marner defensively
Seabass 100%. The other 3 can’t make the playoffs/make out of the first round WITH these players on the team
Aho
Aho ❤️
Mitch marner he has an assist on every matthews goal if it wasn’t for his speed and passing matthews would not have so many goals
Marner is getting a bit underrated here. I agree Barzal and Aho are more valuable overall to their team just because they don’t have the same supporting cast but when Marner didn’t show up in the playoffs in 2021 the Leafs fell apart. His play this year helped them push the bolts to the brink. If the leafs ever make it out of the first round with this core he is going to be a huge part of that.
The one in the top 10 in scoring.
Marner. Overshadowed by matthews but is a big step up from any of these players. Just because he’s not the best on the team doesn’t mean he doesn’t provide as much value as Barzal for Christ sake lol
I’m gonna say Barzal because his team doesn’t have as much offensive prowess overall compared to the other guys. If he was in Aho’s place I think they’d produce similarly, but water is worth more to the thirsty
Edit: moments after saying this, I ran into [this](https://allthreezones.substack.com/p/lets-talk-about-mat-barzal) in the Islanders sub
I think marner as a leafs fan. I realize that most people who aren’t leafs fans wouldn’t notice as much of a difference compared to spread of other teams
As much as I can’t stand The Leafs or their fans it Marner for me.
Brad Marchand
Barzy feels a bit like he’s on a roster… island… so I’d say him.
This is a 2-man race between Aho & Barzal. Legitimate arguments could be made for either, but I think it’s Barzal.
Barzal is hold the islanders together
Barzal because his team is most devoid of talent…
I personally think Mitch Marner is the most valuable to the Leafs than any of the other players on this thread.
I also think that Mat Barzal’s play style is all wrong for Islanders. What I would give to see Mat Barzal in a Detroit Red Wings jersey!
Aho is a great player on a really great team. Carolina has somehow figured out how to draft and build a team better than so many other teams (*coughcoughEdmontonOilerscoughcough*).
Basically the same thing about Kyrou as Ago, but to a lesser extent.
Probably Barzal. NYI doesn’t have much on the way of top-flight offense behind him.
Most valuable to his team is Aho, then Barzal. Marner is the best player of the four.
Barzal. Name the second best player for each team
Barzal hands down
Barzal cuz the isles suck rn. Mitch Marner has Auston Matthews, another break out star. The Isles have no other big names.
Aho is amazing. He is definitely a big part of their success!
Probably Barzal. Marner is the best player but he has Matthews with him.